| 15 Jan 2024 |
 @sr.estegosaurio:matrix.org | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
Oh very easily What have they done? 💀 | 22:42:31 |
 K900 | I'd argue most standards bodies are actually evil | 22:42:40 |
| K900 | And the ones that aren't are the exception | 22:42:49 |
| K900 | And generally the answer to "what have they done" is "pricing" | 22:44:37 |
| K900 | But the HDMI Forum is particularly bad at this | 22:48:32 |
| K900 | To even make a device, you have to be a member of the Forum, so you can see the specs | 22:49:00 |
| K900 | That's $10k/year | 22:49:06 |
| K900 | Not a lot of money for a megacorp, sure, and they have a cheaper option for startups | 22:49:31 |
| K900 | That option? $5k/year and a fixed $1/unit sold, up to 10000 units | 22:49:49 |
| K900 | But K, you will say, doesn't that mean startups will pay more money if they ship more than 5000 units? lol, I answer, enlightened. lmao, even. | 22:50:20 |
| K900 | But surely now that you've bought your way into the cool kids' club, you can just take the spec, implement it on your device and ship it | 22:50:58 |
| K900 | Nope, says the HDMI Forum, there's also patent fees, and those fees are per connector, thank you very much | 22:51:25 |
| K900 | Ever wondered why all the GPUs used to have two HDMI ports and now have one? That's why | 22:51:42 |
| K900 | But the HDMI Forum is a benevolent deity, so they offer you a deal - you can pay half price per connector, as long as you put the HDMI logo on your product | 22:52:38 |
| K900 | "But I was going to do that anyway, so my users know they can use HDMI cables with it", you say | 22:53:02 |
| K900 | Oh sweet summer child | 22:53:06 |
 @beastiefish:logografos.com | Are those people insane? 💀 | 22:53:23 |
 raitobezarius | and that's why we have DIsplayPort | 22:53:49 |
| K900 | The HDMI logo Is licensed separately. How much is it, you ask? The answer, as always, is "lol" | 22:53:43 |
| raitobezarius | * and that's why we have DisplayPort | 22:53:55 |
| K900 | But wait, what if a nefarious evildoer licenses the HDMI logo and puts it on a product that doesn't properly implement HDMI? | 22:54:21 |
| K900 | Well, the HDMI Forum has you covered - before you can put any logos on anything, you must certify your device as compatible | 22:54:50 |
| K900 | Who does the certifying? You guessed it, the HDMI fucking Forum, and you best believe it will cost you extra money | 22:55:19 |
| raitobezarius | what if the device didn't implement HDCP!!!! | 22:55:23 |
| K900 | I'm not sure if that's still the case, but you used to get another discount if you implemented HDCP | 22:55:56 |
| raitobezarius | I guess now you have to have HDCP, it's not bonus | 22:56:15 |
| K900 | Except guess what, HDCP is a separate spec, with a separate buy-in AND separate per-device royalties, so you end up paying more anyway | 22:56:25 |
| raitobezarius | oof i didn't know that | 22:56:34 |
| K900 | Oh yeah, ever wondered why your TV only has eARC on one port? | 22:57:30 |
 FavoritoHJS | ...no? | 22:57:50 |
