| 3 Jan 2024 |
 K900 | Everything else will be virtualized | 10:27:39 |
 @atemu12:matrix.org | Even the "PCIe port" it's connected to would be virtualised | 10:28:49 |
 crushing-smite | guest windows will also slightly freak out, if I switch from conventional KVM to a KVM with looking glass? | 10:35:30 |
| crushing-smite | like, is it okay to have as a milestone a useable windows just with KVM, and later expand it to feature looking glass? | 10:36:03 |
| K900 | In reply to @crushing-smite:matrix.org
like, is it okay to have as a milestone a useable windows just with KVM, and later expand it to feature looking glass? Yes | 10:37:00 |
| K900 | It will not freak out if you add a GPU | 10:37:09 |
| K900 | Usually | 10:37:11 |
| K900 | It's mostly the CPU/board that tends to throw it off | 10:37:20 |
| K900 | GPUs are PCIe so mostly hotpluggable | 10:37:29 |
| crushing-smite | so introducing looking glass is akin to switching just the GPU? | 10:37:47 |
| K900 | No | 10:38:09 |
| K900 | It's not switching anything at all | 10:38:15 |
| K900 | What I'm saying is you can set up Windows with the default virtualized display output, then add a GPU | 10:38:44 |
| K900 | And then you can add looking glass | 10:38:52 |
| crushing-smite | so looking glass is an addition to a GPU passthrough? | 10:39:19 |
| K900 | Yes | 10:39:23 |
| K900 | It's basically just a faster way to get frames from the VM to the host | 10:39:52 |
| crushing-smite | which in the end will make VM be treated as it is a full fledged host plugged via a VGA port to some screen? | 10:40:10 |
| K900 | "Treated" by what? | 10:40:31 |
| crushing-smite | from the enduser standpoint | 10:40:41 |
| K900 | Not really | 10:40:57 |
| K900 | The whole point of Looking Glass is that it works like a normal VM | 10:41:09 |
| K900 | With a separate window and passed through input and such | 10:41:24 |
| K900 | But it's rendering on a passed-through GPU | 10:41:35 |
| crushing-smite | why can't it be achieved solely via the means of KVM? | 10:42:07 |
| K900 | Because there's no standard way to get the rendered image from the VM to the host | 10:43:06 |
| K900 | That's really all Looking Glass does | 10:43:16 |
| crushing-smite | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
Because there's no standard way to get the rendered image from the VM to the host could you elaborate more? | 10:43:32 |
| K900 | It's basically recording the screen in the VM and piping the video to the host | 10:43:34 |
| crushing-smite | basically, there are shenanigans like spice-vnc, right? | 10:43:50 |
