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3 Jan 2024
@k900:0upti.meK900The "BIOS"10:12:46
@k900:0upti.meK900(but it's not really a BIOS anymore, so "firmware" is the correct term)10:13:04
@crushing-smite:matrix.orgcrushing-smiteI still don't get why it is called BIOS, yet I am using EFI?10:13:05
@crushing-smite:matrix.orgcrushing-smiteok, that resolves it10:13:12
@k900:0upti.meK900Because everyone calls it that out of inertia10:13:19
@k900:0upti.meK900Except weirdos like myself that make a point of saying "firmware"10:13:28
@crushing-smite:matrix.orgcrushing-smiteWhat was it called initially by ultra-pedantic people?10:13:38
@k900:0upti.meK900What is "it"?10:13:46
@crushing-smite:matrix.orgcrushing-smitethe bios-firmware10:13:51
@crushing-smite:matrix.orgcrushing-smitewas it always called firmware?10:13:55
@k900:0upti.meK900It used to be called BIOS10:14:07
@crushing-smite:matrix.orgcrushing-smite:(10:14:14
@k900:0upti.meK900As in Basic Input/Output System10:14:36
@k900:0upti.meK900 It's a specific thing that used to exist 10:14:40
@k900:0upti.meK900On like old PC/ATs10:14:57
@k900:0upti.meK900And it was just something IBM built for the PC/AT and they called it that10:15:11
@crushing-smite:matrix.orgcrushing-smiteEFI = firmware, UEFI = bootloader?10:15:26
@k900:0upti.meK900And then people started making IBM PC clones and those also had to clone the IBM BIOS10:15:28
@k900:0upti.meK900 So any IBM PC compatible computer would have a BIOS 10:15:58
@k900:0upti.meK900(not necessarily the same implementation as IBM, as no one but IBM had it, but same interface)10:16:09
@k900:0upti.meK900And eventually UEFI came along and now most firmware actually implements UEFI, not BIOS10:17:06
@k900:0upti.meK900Though most consumer desktop boards also have a compatibility mode that provides BIOS-compatible interfaces on top of the UEFI firmware10:17:42
@k900:0upti.meK900
In reply to@crushing-smite:matrix.org
EFI = firmware, UEFI = bootloader?
There isn't really a distinction
10:17:50
@k900:0upti.meK900EFI is what the spec used to be called when it was only an Intel thing10:17:56
@k900:0upti.meK900Eventually it got spun off into the UEFI Forum10:18:24
@k900:0upti.meK900And they added a "U" to differentiate10:18:32
@k900:0upti.meK900(EFI stands for Extensible Firmware Interface, U stands for Universal)10:18:48
@crushing-smite:matrix.orgcrushing-smiteIs it possible to feed an existing "real" parititon to the VM?10:24:50
@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.orgSure10:24:57
@atemu12:matrix.org@atemu12:matrix.orgYou can even pass an entire drive10:25:04

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