| 15 Jan 2024 |
 K900 | Except guess what, HDCP is a separate spec, with a separate buy-in AND separate per-device royalties, so you end up paying more anyway | 22:56:25 |
 raitobezarius | oof i didn't know that | 22:56:34 |
| K900 | Oh yeah, ever wondered why your TV only has eARC on one port? | 22:57:30 |
 FavoritoHJS | ...no? | 22:57:50 |
| K900 | Yep, another separate spec, with another separate fee, again per connector, and separate cert | 22:57:54 |
| K900 | ARE YOU HAVING FUN YET | 22:57:59 |
| raitobezarius changed their display name from raitobezarius to raitobezarius (K900 as chairfolk of HDMI forum when). | 22:59:19 |
| K900 | I've never been personally involved in the process of shipping a device with HDMI on it (thank god for that), but I know people that did and I think I can trigger a full on PTSD flashback in every one of them by just saying "HDMI 2.2 will have a new licensing structure" | 23:00:17 |
| raitobezarius | I think you have the talent to do HDMI 2.3 | 23:00:53 |
| raitobezarius | with a new licensing structure | 23:00:59 |
| FavoritoHJS | and what happens if you just... don't go to the forum?
will the inevitable lawsuit be cheaper than actually selling your soul to the Forum? | 23:01:14 |
| raitobezarius | you cannot really sell on normal markets your shit | 23:01:37 |
| raitobezarius | in some flea market in shenzhen you can probably | 23:01:49 |
| K900 | Oh yeah forgot to mention the actual HDMI wire protocol is EXTREMELY CURSED | 23:02:30 |
| K900 | It's basically just DVI-D overclocked beyond all reason | 23:02:44 |
| K900 | There is no framing layer | 23:02:50 |
| raitobezarius | it's kinda cool and easy to implement in RTL for very basic versions though | 23:03:03 |
| raitobezarius | but clearly avoid it like pest | 23:03:10 |
| K900 | There is no retransmissions or stream multiplexing or anything you would reasonably want to have when shoving 40gbps of data down a link | 23:04:29 |
| FavoritoHJS | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
It's basically just DVI-D overclocked beyond all reason so just implement a dvi-d interface that just so happens to have a passive hdmi adapter attached to the factory | 23:04:44 |
| raitobezarius | Ah yes the packet loss on HDMI is stupid | 23:04:44 |
| FavoritoHJS | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
It's basically just DVI-D overclocked beyond all reason * so just implement a dvi-d interface that just so happens to have a passive hdmi adapter attached at the factory | 23:04:47 |
| raitobezarius | It makes you go mad whenever you try to do Things™ | 23:04:52 |
| raitobezarius | Like cables longer than N meters are unidirectional (!!!!!) | 23:05:00 |
| K900 | There's an entire separate protocol that has most of those things | 23:05:06 |
| K900 | And it's used for sideband stuff like audio | 23:05:17 |
| K900 | In reply to @favoritohjs:matrix.org
so just implement a dvi-d interface that just so happens to have a passive hdmi adapter attached at the factory If you're OK not having audio, sure | 23:05:41 |
| FavoritoHJS | (or worse a cable with DVI at one end and HDMI at the other for ultimate cursed) | 23:05:39 |
| FavoritoHJS | ...i should probably shut up before someone does that | 23:06:09 |
| K900 | Oh yeah that sideband? IT RUNS DURING VBLANK | 23:06:16 |
