| 3 Jan 2024 |
 K900 | If you want to use the same Windows install inside the VM and outside the VM at the same time, definitely don't do that | 10:26:36 |
| K900 | Because Windows will attempt to reconfigure itself when it sees new hardware | 10:26:51 |
| K900 | And that is persistent | 10:26:55 |
 crushing-smite | ok | 10:26:58 |
| crushing-smite | but what would be the difference in hardware? | 10:27:07 |
| K900 | So every time you switch from inside VM to outside VM, it'll have to reinstall all the drivers for everything | 10:27:07 |
| K900 | And it would very likely EVENTUALLY cause it to break in some funny way | 10:27:18 |
| crushing-smite | am I not supplying the very same hardware (especially with GPU passthrough)? | 10:27:23 |
| K900 | In reply to@crushing-smite:matrix.org
but what would be the difference in hardware? Literally everything except the GPU | 10:27:25 |
| K900 | The GPU you're passing through as-is | 10:27:33 |
| K900 | Everything else will be virtualized | 10:27:39 |
 @atemu12:matrix.org | Even the "PCIe port" it's connected to would be virtualised | 10:28:49 |
| crushing-smite | guest windows will also slightly freak out, if I switch from conventional KVM to a KVM with looking glass? | 10:35:30 |
| crushing-smite | like, is it okay to have as a milestone a useable windows just with KVM, and later expand it to feature looking glass? | 10:36:03 |
| K900 | In reply to @crushing-smite:matrix.org
like, is it okay to have as a milestone a useable windows just with KVM, and later expand it to feature looking glass? Yes | 10:37:00 |
| K900 | It will not freak out if you add a GPU | 10:37:09 |
| K900 | Usually | 10:37:11 |
| K900 | It's mostly the CPU/board that tends to throw it off | 10:37:20 |
| K900 | GPUs are PCIe so mostly hotpluggable | 10:37:29 |
| crushing-smite | so introducing looking glass is akin to switching just the GPU? | 10:37:47 |
| K900 | No | 10:38:09 |
| K900 | It's not switching anything at all | 10:38:15 |
| K900 | What I'm saying is you can set up Windows with the default virtualized display output, then add a GPU | 10:38:44 |
| K900 | And then you can add looking glass | 10:38:52 |
| crushing-smite | so looking glass is an addition to a GPU passthrough? | 10:39:19 |
| K900 | Yes | 10:39:23 |
| K900 | It's basically just a faster way to get frames from the VM to the host | 10:39:52 |
| crushing-smite | which in the end will make VM be treated as it is a full fledged host plugged via a VGA port to some screen? | 10:40:10 |
| K900 | "Treated" by what? | 10:40:31 |
| crushing-smite | from the enduser standpoint | 10:40:41 |
