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21 Jul 2021
* @infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil wants tag-organized packages16:39:03
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilHmm, what if we did symlink-based tagging16:39:27
@philipp:xndr.dephilippOh dear16:39:36
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil So like, have a huge pkgs/all-packages/* where every single package is 16:39:38
@philipp:xndr.dephilipp
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Hmm, what if we did symlink-based tagging
famous last sentences.
16:39:53
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Then pkgs/tags/someTag/foo -> pkgs/all-packages/foo, tags foo as having someTag 16:40:01
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Need something gaming related? cd pkgs/tags/gaming! 16:40:26
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI think this might be pretty sweet16:40:40
@philipp:xndr.dephilippi agree that it sounds pretty good in general.16:40:48
@philipp:xndr.dephilippBut mayb just have tags as metadata of a package?16:41:07
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilphilipp: And keep the current structure?16:41:47
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI mainly want to make it easier to find packages or where they should go16:42:46
@philipp:xndr.dephilippNow the question is "what path should the package go to?" The question "how many and what tags does the package need?" is even harder.16:43:24
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI think it's much easier, because it's not an exclusive choice16:43:49
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilWhen in doubt, just choose both16:43:54
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilE.g. see the above suggestions by timdeh16:44:15
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@davidak:matrix.orgdavidak
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But mayb just have tags as metadata of a package?
could we call it categories and follow the freedesktop spec? don't reinvent the wheel without good reason. but it seem only for enduser programs, not for system components like grub https://specifications.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html how does other distros do it? is there another standard or just mess?
19:27:54
@timdeh:matrix.orgnrdxp davidak: I think the spec you reference is targeting graphical desktop environments no? While I agree that we shouldn't reinvent the wheel for no good reason, I don't see how that can fit well for nixpkgs which includes plenty of cli applications and development libraries. 19:47:25
@davidak:matrix.orgdavidak nrdxp yes. that's what endusers will actually see. we also need a structure for nixpkgs for developers to find other packages there... we might not need to be more detailed than freedesktop like nixpkgs is now 19:52:46
@gilganix:matrix.org-(𝕂eloτ)- Gabriel Fontes: Send me your dotfiles, if you have them somewhere, to make my league of legends work, have some spare time and want to game a little :) 20:08:14
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22 Jul 2021
@mixedCase:matrix.orgAndrés Rodríguez Has anyone had any success running Metro 2033 Redux natively? I'm getting ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1035:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave and consequently, no sound. 01:12:54
@mixedCase:matrix.orgAndrés Rodríguez

This is my pipewire config FWIW:

  security.rtkit.enable = true;
  services.pipewire = {
    enable = true;
    alsa.enable = true;
    alsa.support32Bit = true;
    pulse.enable = true;
    jack.enable = false;
  };
01:13:50
@mixedCase:matrix.orgAndrés RodríguezYou know what, nevermind. Valve is right, native ports aren't worth it when devs keep fucking it up. Got it working via Proton.01:21:54
@timdeh:matrix.orgnrdxpIt's really telling when Proton functions better than a supposedly native binary 🤦‍♂️02:20:16
@megamanmalte:retinker.demegamanmalte Andrés Rodríguez: I got the same error with FTL, xournalpp and a few others, also using Pipewire (same config without jack) and haven't found a fix. Iirc, the problem was gone, though, when I didn't have anything else running and killed the pipewire-pulse service. Wasn't worth it.. 07:10:00
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