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31 Oct 2023
@foxboron:archlinux.orgFoxboronThe ISO targets are nice goals though :)13:28:50
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusOnce we are there, we can start looking at the rest of the observable universe :P13:28:53
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI think we need the "Archlinux goal"13:29:02
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusOr the Guix goal13:29:05
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusAfter that, it will be a new type of discussion of "what does it mean to pursue a reproducibility goal for nixpkgs?"13:29:18
@julienmalka:matrix.orgJuliendebian has really good numbers 13:29:20
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusAny project having a good Reproducible Builds team, I guess :P13:29:41
@foxboron:archlinux.orgFoxboronYou'll also have inflated numbers because you deal with "paths" and repackage ecosystems.13:29:49
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThe Repology statistics doesn't include them AFAIK13:30:05
@foxboron:archlinux.orgFoxboron
In reply to @julienmalka:matrix.org
debian has really good numbers
The numbers you are looking at are not real reproductions, fyi
13:30:05
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI mean13:30:07
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusInclude repackaged ecosystems13:30:10
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusYes13:30:11
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusNot the "paths" though13:30:16
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThere are too many ways to count what is the artifacts output size of nixpkgs13:30:31
@atemu12:matrix.orgatemu12
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
Include repackaged ecosystems
It does.
13:30:33
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @atemu12:matrix.org
It does.
Yes yes, I clarified it does include repackaged ecosystems but not the "paths"
13:30:46
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI think it's fair to include repackaged ecosystems though13:30:54
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusAUR does have python3-XYZ13:30:59
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusFor many XYZ13:31:01
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusDebian doesn't and… this means that people have to pursue them somewhere else13:31:14
@foxboron:archlinux.orgFoxboronThe repro count you are operating with uses "paths" which confuses people :)13:31:20
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius * Debian doesn't and… this means that people have to pursue them somewhere else (beyond basics)13:31:21
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @foxboron:archlinux.org
The repro count you are operating with uses "paths" which confuses people :)
Ah! The repro yes
13:31:33
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI thought we were talking about repology13:31:40
@foxboron:archlinux.orgFoxboronAh no, I don't care too much about repology stats :p13:32:02
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius:D13:32:22
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI mean, either case, we probably need a way to map nixpkgs stuff to Arch/Debian/Guix so we can also do comparisons13:32:39
@foxboron:archlinux.orgFoxboronIt would be useful, I think13:33:13
@atemu12:matrix.orgatemu12I think repology could come in handy there as it's also a map of packages between repos13:33:43

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