| 31 Oct 2023 |
 raitobezarius | And let it run | 12:18:48 |
 Julien | Sure, but as you said, trustix has a much more ambitious goal | 12:19:15 |
| * raitobezarius nods$ | 12:19:29 |
| * raitobezarius * nods | 12:19:31 |
| raitobezarius | But having nothing is worse than having something | 12:19:39 |
| Julien | Yes true, but these are non exclusive things | 12:19:59 |
| raitobezarius | Non mutually exclusive, yes | 12:20:11 |
| raitobezarius | But if we are going to make a dent, let's start somewhere that benefits from passively collecting data | 12:20:25 |
| raitobezarius | Which will help everyone working in the ecosystem rather than pursuing ambitious goals which will bring fruits only much later on IMHO | 12:20:48 |
 Alyssa Ross | trustix had funding | 12:22:33 |
| Julien | Yeah but it is over now, right ? | 12:22:59 |
 toonn | Did it? Tweag wasn't really funding it AFAIK, was more of a 20%-time kinda dealio, no? | 12:23:48 |
| Julien | I think it has NLNet funding | 12:24:00 |
| Julien | * I think it had NLNet funding | 12:24:06 |
| toonn | Oh, cool. | 12:24:18 |
| raitobezarius | In reply to @qyliss:fairydust.space
trustix had funding yes but I think it was not consumed | 13:16:38 |
| raitobezarius | for complicated reasons I suppose | 13:16:47 |
 Foxboron | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
I wonder if we would get similar results given our codebase ~similar I think it depends a lot on the development model, not codebase :p | 13:23:51 |
| raitobezarius | Well, both plays a role for sure | 13:24:21 |
| raitobezarius | But structural purity increase the chance of reproducibility | 13:24:35 |
| Foxboron | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
But structural purity increase the chance of reproducibility I don't think so, there are too many weird issues for stuff to be unreproducible and different domains of "problems" | 13:25:22 |
| Julien | Given than we have the same concept of reproducible build environments, and that most work towards build reproducibility is upstreamed, I'd expect Guix and Nix to have similar performances, but I'd be interested to see | 13:25:26 |
| raitobezarius | In reply to @foxboron:archlinux.org
I don't think so, there are too many weird issues for stuff to be unreproducible and different domains of "problems" While I agree there are many weird issues, we are getting better and better at bounding the class of problems | 13:26:34 |
| raitobezarius | But I know you are not very convinced except if we show you proofs :P | 13:27:01 |
| raitobezarius | So I won't try to convince you until we have proper numbers and testing stories | 13:27:11 |
| raitobezarius | (and you are right to doubt) | 13:27:20 |
| Foxboron | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
But I know you are not very convinced except if we show you proofs :P Having >80k packages of varying degrees of quality is going to make it a very hard problem :p | 13:28:08 |
| raitobezarius | Fair, but we only need to start by intersecting this set with other distro first | 13:28:29 |
| Foxboron | Guix (and Arch for that matter) get an easier job because we do have a limit of what we decide to support | 13:28:29 |
| raitobezarius | And see if we are already as fine as them | 13:28:33 |
