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12 May 2023
@lassulus:lassul.uslassulus changed their profile picture.10:12:04
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusAdisbladis told us that he ran out of energy and he got some personal issues and couldn't move forward with the project10:20:59
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusHe's still interested into Trustix10:21:07
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But yes, it fits my research interests to help nix get better in terms of software supply chain security
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14 May 2023
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothI think there's a way to fix the Linux modules BTF reproducibility issue -- it looks like pahole (the thing that generates the .BTF section from DWARF info) uses multi-threading, and I suspect that's the cause of the unreproducibility (stuff gets processed in a ~random order). But 1. there's a pahole flag we could use (-j 1); 2. we could just patch pahole to not support that at all, or default the number of threads to 1 if e.g. SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH is defined, or similar.01:59:14
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothyep, ran a --check of linuxPackages.zfs with pahole patched to default to 1 thread, and it succeeded. could be a fluke, but that's promising (my run with no patch failed "as expected")02:06:59
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothhttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/23176802:14:31
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothso uh, only Python left for the minimal iso? :)04:48:18
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@raboof:matrix.orgraboofI think so! Very curious to see how things will go in practice once the default is switched to python3.11, after the 23.05 branchoff09:18:16
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI'd be curious to see what does it take to fix pahole to emit correctly in multi-threaded mode15:05:41
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15 May 2023
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17 May 2023
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothhmm, still getting unreproducible linux kernel builds on current staging-next12:27:44
@raboof:matrix.orgraboofow - still in the BTF sections or something else?12:30:36
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothchecking now, diffoscope OOMs on my test VM so I have to move the files around :p12:30:56
@delroth:delroth.netdelroth(turns out ballooning doesn't work super well with panic_on_oom... sometimes memory consumption spikes too quickly and it OOMs before growing the RAM size)12:32:11
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothhttps://delroth.net/out.html13:59:50
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothwell, that's not BTF, but that also doesn't tell me much13:59:58
@delroth:delroth.netdelroth(it took 20min of 100% CPU time for diffoscope to generate this diff)14:00:14
@delroth:delroth.netdelroth20 bytes, that's likely some SHA-1 build-ids14:02:04
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothif I had to guess...14:02:06
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothRedacted or Malformed Event14:20:00
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothwelp, too bad for future history, can't post images and I'm not going to keep this URL alive forever14:20:15

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