| 6 Sep 2024 |
 Alyssa Ross | Most do | 08:09:08 |
| Alyssa Ross | We couldn't do it universally, but it could be the norm | 08:09:19 |
| Alyssa Ross | I think the main weird bit would be that we'd want to start unpacking tarballs in separate derivations. | 08:09:59 |
| Alyssa Ross | (We wouldn't want to just switch to fetchzip, because it's nice to be able to check the hash before operating on the output where it's reproducible)
| 08:10:22 |
| Alyssa Ross | I guess we could have a mode where it checks the hash before unpacking | 08:10:48 |
 emily | In reply to @qyliss:fairydust.space
I think the main weird bit would be that we'd want to start unpacking tarballs in separate derivations. IIRC the times I've ended up doing this out of necessity it's been noticeably slow because of I guess hashing on store ingest | 08:10:48 |
| Alyssa Ross | And then still does it in the same derivation | 08:11:00 |
| emily | though that might have been incombination with copying it in another derivation too | 08:11:00 |
| emily | hm, that would mean we're not preserving original tarballs, which may or may not matter but makes me a little sad all the same | 08:11:32 |
| Alyssa Ross | We'd also need to apply patches as part of this | 08:11:46 |
| emily | you know, lazy trees would fix this 🤪 | 08:12:08 |
| Alyssa Ross | Honestly I think all the Nix expressions that modify source files in the middle of a build would be a bigger deal than build systems that don't support out-of-tree builds. | 08:12:18 |
 Kamilla 'ova | In reply to @raboof:matrix.org
Yeah thanks for your awesome work on this! Is there any upstream reference to a strip bug? Or are we only observing it here? No, I haven't found any issue that could be like that. Also I don't really know how to report such a bug, because it can only be reproduced with ~300 rebuilds, and only in a nix sandbox, etc etc etc...
By the way, toggling aslr (and something like that, what exactly - I don't remember now) doesn't change anything, but testing on aarch64-linux might be helpful
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| 8 Sep 2024 |
 Pol | raboof: Are you going to the Hamburg R-B summit? | 08:27:29 |
 raboof | unfortunately not, couldn't fit it in my schedule :/ | 08:28:05 |
| Pol | Oh :( OK | 08:28:30 |
| raboof | are you going? | 08:29:54 |
| Pol | yes ! | 08:32:11 |
| Pol | I was wondering if it's better to arrive one day before and leave one day after. | 08:32:28 |
| Pol | Am I going to be the only Nix person in there? | 08:33:12 |
| raboof | arriving a day before is probably good, when to leave depends a bit on what your connections are like. I see there'll be hacking time after the event, so if you have the time it's probably fun to err on the later side :) | 08:38:44 |
| raboof | I was the only Nix person there last time, but that was no problem: very interesting to learn about what the other ecosystems are doing and share what we do | 08:40:20 |
| Pol | Yeah that's what I though | 10:07:28 |
| Pol | OK good to know! | 10:07:32 |
| emily | just don't call Nix reproducible :D | 12:07:56 |
| Pol | Should I call Debian reproducible ? :D | 12:17:53 |
| Pol | * Should I call Debian reproducible instead? :D | 12:18:00 |
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