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| 30 Sep 2024 |
 raboof | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/345329 | 09:57:01 |
| Fernando Rodrigues | So, is there more documentation for enforcing reproducible builds? I'm struggling with #343389, as I don't know if stdenv does something special with SDE or Build ID, or if it doesn't, how should I go about telling gcc to not build ELFs with such impurities. | 21:42:04 |
| Fernando Rodrigues | I'm also unsure how to get all of the diffoscope diffs for multiple-output packages. nix build --rebuild seem to pick outputs at random. | 21:42:42 |
| Fernando Rodrigues | * I'm also unsure how to get all of the diffoscope diffs for multiple-output packages. nix build --rebuild seems to pick outputs at random. | 21:42:48 |
| Fernando Rodrigues | * So, is there more documentation than just reproducible-builds.org for enforcing reproducible builds? I'm struggling with #343389, as I don't know if stdenv does something special with SDE or Build ID, or if it doesn't, how should I go about telling gcc to not build ELFs with such impurities. | 21:45:46 |
| Fernando Rodrigues | * So, is there more documentation than just reproducible-builds.org, diff-hook and reproducible.nixos.org for enforcing reproducible builds? I'm struggling with #343389, as I don't know if stdenv does something special with SDE or Build ID, or if it doesn't, how should I go about telling gcc to not build ELFs with such impurities. | 21:47:19 |
 emily | I think that you should get reproducible builds "by default" when something weird isn't going on, so I'd guess that something weird is going on? | 22:04:55 |
| Fernando Rodrigues | upstream patch time then | 23:03:40 |
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 @rick:matrix.ciphernetics.nl | build-id is generated based on the input path which can be different even if the output would be the same | 07:58:40 |
| @rick:matrix.ciphernetics.nl | But you shouldn't run into that typically | 07:59:01 |
| @rick:matrix.ciphernetics.nl | * build-id is generated based on the input path which can be different even if the output would be the same: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/151475 | 07:59:10 |
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| raboof | interesting, the NT_GNU_BUILD_ID also differs in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/346119 . Added that to the 'nixos minimal runtime image' board (https://github.com/orgs/NixOS/projects/30) - it's not yet in there, but it will be ;) | 08:47:04 |
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| raboof | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/346119#issuecomment-2392372427 - is this a LLM? It looks plausible and confident but at the same time everything seems slightly wrong/nonactionable. I guess I'll play along and see where it leads, can't hurt 🙂 | 06:15:26 |
| @rick:matrix.ciphernetics.nl | A bit strangely worded for sure, but maybe it's more of a language barrier thing. Idk, it's getting harder to detect those things | 06:18:37 |
 Atemu | I've had an odd interaction with this account too a few days ago. They confidently talk about things that they evidently do not understand but I don't think it's an LLM but rather an experienced hacker who's new to Nix. | 12:04:41 |
| Atemu | * I've had an odd interaction with this account too a few days ago. They confidently talk about things that they evidently do not understand but I don't think it's an LLM but rather an otherwise experienced hacker who's completely new to Nix. | 12:05:18 |
