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31 Oct 2023
@julienmalka:matrix.orgJulienBut currently we just don't have the hardware for that I think 12:13:31
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuswhat do you mean the hardware12:14:07
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuswe need no hardware to do this12:14:10
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius

and I'll definitely keep looking out for that 'simplest thing that can possibly work' for hash collection 😆. maybe I should just sit down and write a super boring database service and be done with it, but that's never how it goes, is it? 😆
raitobezarius
Maybe pgsql
Static schema
raboof
yeah exactly
raitobezarius
Add community folks with ssh key or IP or whatever
And post hook build script that uploads results
Directly with psqo
Psql *
And apply just some stupid RLS to prevent basic tampering
I can hack this weekend
If you come up with the schema
More generally, I have been meaning to have a NixOS community LDAP

12:14:35
@julienmalka:matrix.orgJulienWe need to build a second time what Hydra is already struggling to build ?12:14:39
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuswe need no second hydra12:14:51
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusthere's plenty of second hydra out there12:14:55
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusand plenty of people rebuilding stuff12:14:59
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuswhat we need is a hash collection infrastructure12:15:03
@julienmalka:matrix.orgJulienAh ok 12:15:06
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusthat requires a 512MB RAM machine12:15:09
@toonn:matrix.orgtoonn This is what Trustix intended to do, right? 12:15:40
@julienmalka:matrix.orgJulienYeah 12:15:48
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusTrustix had a much more ambitious goal but yes12:15:51
@julienmalka:matrix.orgJulienBut trustix is not really alive 12:15:59
@julienmalka:matrix.orgJulienBut I'm interested also into seeing what we can do with trustix 12:16:15
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI think it is unreasonable to pursue Trustix without (a) funding (b) dedicated human resources on it12:18:29
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI think it's more reasonable to build a stupid Postgres DB, build a stupid upload script, give the keys to community members we trust12:18:46
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusAnd let it run12:18:48
@julienmalka:matrix.orgJulienSure, but as you said, trustix has a much more ambitious goal12:19:15
* @raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius nods$12:19:29
* @raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius * nods12:19:31
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBut having nothing is worse than having something12:19:39
@julienmalka:matrix.orgJulienYes true, but these are non exclusive things12:19:59
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusNon mutually exclusive, yes12:20:11
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBut if we are going to make a dent, let's start somewhere that benefits from passively collecting data12:20:25
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusWhich will help everyone working in the ecosystem rather than pursuing ambitious goals which will bring fruits only much later on IMHO12:20:48
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa Rosstrustix had funding12:22:33
@julienmalka:matrix.orgJulienYeah but it is over now, right ?12:22:59
@toonn:matrix.orgtoonn Did it? Tweag wasn't really funding it AFAIK, was more of a 20%-time kinda dealio, no? 12:23:48

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