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11 May 2023
@julienmalka:matrix.orgJulienWhere should I sign ?17:17:06
@julienmalka:matrix.orgJulienAh yes, the "hash collection infra" looks like something I had in mind actually 17:19:08
@julienmalka:matrix.orgJulienWell I'd be ready to work on that kind of solution and could probably even have that be part of my PhD when I start it17:20:22
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusstop giving hope to this channel's people17:20:55
@davidak:matrix.orgdavidak
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Would you be interesting into getting that hash collection infra first?

i think trustix has hash collection infra, but no one knows if and how it works (except adisbladis who is unresponsive to the questions)

https://github.com/nix-community/trustix/issues/90

19:36:58
@davidak:matrix.orgdavidaki have collected thousands of hashes on my computer from reviewing PRs and would like to share them, so we can get a broader picture of unreproducible packages19:41:11
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusSomeone needs to investigate this properly19:53:20
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusOr ping adisbladis on appropriate channels19:53:32
@davidak:matrix.orgdavidaki pinged him multiple times in the official room and he has seen it according to matrix20:01:57
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI know20:02:39
@davidak:matrix.orgdavidakso someone else would have to dig into the code20:02:40
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThat's why I said "appropriate channels" ;)20:02:50
@davidak:matrix.orgdavidakmaybe someone has personal contact to him or work together20:03:40
@davidak:matrix.orgdavidaki'm not good with this kind of social stuff20:07:59
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusNo worries20:08:05
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12 May 2023
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@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusAdisbladis told us that he ran out of energy and he got some personal issues and couldn't move forward with the project10:20:59
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusHe's still interested into Trustix10:21:07
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@j-k:matrix.orgj-k
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But yes, it fits my research interests to help nix get better in terms of software supply chain security
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@julienmalka:matrix.orgJulienThanks16:05:23
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14 May 2023
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothI think there's a way to fix the Linux modules BTF reproducibility issue -- it looks like pahole (the thing that generates the .BTF section from DWARF info) uses multi-threading, and I suspect that's the cause of the unreproducibility (stuff gets processed in a ~random order). But 1. there's a pahole flag we could use (-j 1); 2. we could just patch pahole to not support that at all, or default the number of threads to 1 if e.g. SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH is defined, or similar.01:59:14
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothyep, ran a --check of linuxPackages.zfs with pahole patched to default to 1 thread, and it succeeded. could be a fluke, but that's promising (my run with no patch failed "as expected")02:06:59

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