| 20 Jun 2021 |
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balsoft | Just wanted to jump in and congratulate you on your fantastic work! | 19:27:39 |
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emily | congrats on... um, 99.88% :) | 20:39:16 |
Rick (Mindavi) | The website is a little behind but I heard rumors about 100% | 20:52:21 |
emily | seems more like a regression? https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-unstable-s-iso-minimal-x86-64-linux-is-100-reproducible/13723 has an archived 100% | 21:39:29 |
emily | oh hm | 21:39:46 |
emily | the generation timestamp on r13y.com is older than that archived version | 21:39:56 |
emily | so I guess it's some caching issue | 21:40:00 |
hexa | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27573393 | 21:52:46 |
hexa | and trending | 21:52:48 |
tomberek | Did it happen?! | 22:03:41 |
@grahamc:nixos.org | congratulations everyone, this is fantastic! | 23:23:22 |
emily | that taviso comment just straight up assumes that everyone gets their binary software builds straight from the source code vendor :( | 23:56:47 |
emily | another criticism of reproducible builds I encountered today was "this is useless... you have to pin all your dependencies!" >_>; | 23:59:47 |
| 21 Jun 2021 |
@grahamc:nixos.org | don't worry about it :) it is great to see some people be grumpy about the good work we're doing | 01:02:43 |
hexa | heh, taviso has been downvoted | 01:07:05 |
hexa | his post is essentially dead | 01:07:30 |
@grahamc:nixos.org | if I'd known we'd see such response to hitting 100% I'd have thought more carefully about the text at the bottom, and how to refer to the rest of the ecosystem and the fact that we're benefiting a lot from the ecosystem | 01:17:37 |
@grahamc:nixos.org | any suggested text on how to communicate this? | 01:20:24 |
siraben | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network and trending YAY | 01:22:25 |
chreekat | In reply to @grahamc:nixos.org any suggested text on how to communicate this? A short history of the effort? | 01:24:33 |
Xe (xe/they) | what compiler bundle does nixos use as the root of the reproducibility effort? | 01:29:59 |
hexa | you mean what's in stdenv(.cc)? | 01:30:39 |
hexa | ❯ nix-build -A stdenv.cc
/nix/store/gg2rq3hrl3rf92nq6dnqhdyyxaa89aqf-gcc-wrapper-10.3.0
| 01:31:07 |
Xe (xe/they) | is that c compiler used to rebuild itself? | 01:34:24 |
@grahamc:nixos.org | that is already a post-bootstrapping gcc | 01:35:12 |
Xe (xe/they) | oh, what's the bootstrapping root then? | 01:35:38 |