| 8 May 2022 |
 afontain | also it depends on the country | 06:52:31 |
| afontain | (for example I would worry less in the EU) | 06:53:15 |
| afontain | now, I am not a lawyer, yada yada | 06:53:20 |
| afontain | * (for example I would worry less if EU juridiction applies) | 06:53:38 |
 davidak | clean room reimplementation is a think. like the wine people can only publish their work when they haven't looked at leaked windows code or when they had access under NDA. not sure how that works in detail legally | 07:01:50 |
| davidak | * clean room reimplementation is a thing. like the wine people can only publish their work when they haven't looked at leaked windows code or when they had access under NDA. not sure how that works in detail legally | 07:02:01 |
| afontain | I mean, what are the essential 4 free software liberties? | 07:24:16 |
| afontain | 4th is about learning | 07:24:31 |
| afontain | I'd be surprised if guix would claim that you can't look at their code and use the knowledge you learned | 07:25:53 |
| afontain | * I'd be surprised if guix would claim that you can't look at their code and use the knowledge you learned [to write another implementation] | 07:26:18 |
| davidak | the license forbids to use the code in MIT code which will be made proprietary eventually. feel free to ask them how strict they see it | 08:14:51 |
 Alyssa Ross | we wouldn't be using the code though | 08:42:31 |
| Alyssa Ross | ideas and algorithms are not copyrightable | 08:42:38 |
| Alyssa Ross | so i highly doubt a bootstrap path would be | 08:42:45 |
 Moritz Hedtke | In reply to @qyliss:fairydust.space
ideas and algorithms are not copyrightable Some try to pretend they are but yes | 09:49:11 |
| Moritz Hedtke | Like there are patents on that (though patents are another thing( | 09:49:31 |
| Moritz Hedtke | * ~~Some try to pretend they are but yes~~ | 09:50:01 |
| Moritz Hedtke | * ~Some try to pretend they are but yes~ | 09:50:08 |
| Moritz Hedtke | * __Some try to pretend they are but yes__ | 09:50:20 |
| Moritz Hedtke | * Some try to pretend they are but yes | 09:50:30 |
| Moritz Hedtke | * ~~Some try to pretend they are but yes~~ | 09:50:47 |
| Moritz Hedtke | * ~~Like there are patents on that (though patents are another thing)~~ | 09:50:52 |
| Moritz Hedtke | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_room_design just read the first paragraph. It protects against copyrights so if you can show you did a clean room design they can't sue you. If we don't and they would sue us we would probably need so show that we didn't simply copy their code. Don't know how hard that would be if it would probably be a different programming language but yeah | 09:59:18 |
 @rnhmjoj:maxwell.ydns.eu | has any FOSS project ever sued another for this? I can't imaging GNU suing uutils, which IIRC is pretty much a rip off of their coreutils | 12:30:21 |
| Alyssa Ross | it's a reimplementation, but I'm not aware of any reason it would be infringing on their IP | 13:07:07 |
| Alyssa Ross | if reimplementations were illegal GNU couldn't exist in the first place | 13:07:22 |
| @rnhmjoj:maxwell.ydns.eu | yes, but IIRC from the discussion around it some years ago, they didn't do a clean room design, so it's not just implementing a public AP | 15:06:00 |
| @rnhmjoj:maxwell.ydns.eu | * yes, but IIRC from the discussion around it some years ago, they didn't do a clean room design, so it's not just implementing a public API | 15:06:13 |
| 10 May 2022 |
 Artturin | Redacted or Malformed Event | 17:00:48 |
| Artturin | In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
siraben: newest iso_minimal run: https://tomberek.info/r13y.com/ could you run it again? | 17:01:07 |
