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 j-k | Some reprodcibility things popping up:
container based build environment stuff - https://ilo.projects.metio.wtf/
container based build environment + trustix-esque trust model - https://pyrsia.io/ being kicked off by jfrog
Pyrsia node providing the build service will create an independent containerized environment to build that package.
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| 26 Mar 2022 |
 tpw_rules | finally got around to reinvestigating the initrd and it seems gnu cpio is the only thing that makes the archives the kernel wants | 22:58:29 |
| tpw_rules | i emailed a bug report to the cpio folks. not sure if it will go anywhere. | 23:01:59 |
| tpw_rules | ah never mind, bsdtar can do it properly | 23:24:33 |
| tpw_rules | yay, that fixed it: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/165892 | 23:43:25 |
| 27 Mar 2022 |
| tpw_rules | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/165895 | 00:00:16 |
| tpw_rules | also someone should fix this: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/6de161729c81dc98e844793cc9c8fda29d5ef62a/pkgs/stdenv/darwin/make-bootstrap-tools.nix#L190 | 00:01:08 |
| tpw_rules | * also someone should fix this: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/6de161729c81dc98e844793cc9c8fda29d5ef62a/pkgs/stdenv/darwin/make-bootstrap-tools.nix#L190 but i'm not sure i feel qualified. toonn ? | 00:01:22 |
 artturin | tpw_rules: Good job! | 03:39:07 |
 Alyssa Ross | tpw_rules: I've had a cpio patch sitting on the list for months with no responses, so I wouldn't get your hopes up about your bug report | 12:24:56 |
| Alyssa Ross | but glad bsdtar is suitable here instead — it wasn't for the last thing I looked into it for because it couldn't append to an existing archive | 12:25:31 |
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| 29 Mar 2022 |
 toonn | tpw_rules: I agree, bzip2 is just outrageously painful. | 11:07:57 |
| toonn | Is there consensus on what we'd use instead? Lzip, zstd, gzip? | 11:08:41 |
 atemu12 | zstd is pretty much the go-to compressor for general purposes. | 12:23:47 |
| toonn | Motivation for Lzip would be the compression ratio, since the bootstrap tarball isn't updated often. (And it seems to work well for Guix.) | 12:31:57 |
| atemu12 | toonn: Who decompresses the bootstrap tarball? | 12:33:14 |
 Linux Hackerman | Hm, what's the practical difference between lzip and xz? | 12:34:18 |
| toonn | Anyone building stdenv. | 12:34:37 |
| toonn | Lzip is a much simpler format with a focus on being suitable for archival. Xz has a bit of a complex format that is more vulnerable to corruption. | 12:35:25 |
| Linux Hackerman | how can a compression format be more or less vulnerable to corruption? | 12:36:08 |
