| 16 Nov 2021 |
 tomberek | ref: https://r13y.com/iso_gnome/index.html any other overall builds that would be good to add? | 15:40:01 |
|  @etrigan63:matrix.org changed their profile picture. | 19:24:28 |
| 17 Nov 2021 |
 afontain | eh, /nix/store/0mn8d6cl3pv7py19q0k3lxnysvsvh5yi-attachment.cgi?id=359589.drv | 09:39:57 |
| afontain | (from https://r13y.com/iso_gnome/index.html) | 09:40:32 |
 moritz.hedtke | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/a0dbe47318bbab7559ffbfa7c4872a517833409f/pkgs/development/libraries/cogl/default.nix | 11:59:00 |
| moritz.hedtke | Don't know why they specifically are unchecked paths | 11:59:14 |
 @ninjatrappeur:alternativebit.fr | In reply to@afontain:gnugen.ch
(from https://r13y.com/iso_gnome/index.html) I was so confused to see pandoc landing on the minimal image. It's actually the gnome iso. We probably should change the page title, it's misleading. | 12:15:12 |
| @ninjatrappeur:alternativebit.fr | The binaries generated by GHC are currently not binary-stable. More info on https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/12935 | 12:16:42 |
| @ninjatrappeur:alternativebit.fr | * The binaries generated by GHC are currently not binary-stable. More info on https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/12935 .
TL;DR: the unique temporary names generated during compilation are not necessarily stable. Looking at diffoscope, we're exactly hitting that issue
Meaning don't expect | 12:17:52 |
| @ninjatrappeur:alternativebit.fr | In reply to@afontain:gnugen.ch
(from https://r13y.com/iso_gnome/index.html) * I was so confused to see pandoc landing on the minimal image. It's actually the gnome iso. We probably should change the page title, it's misleading.
[edit]: We're already aware of that, I should have backlogged the chat a bit more. Sorry about that. | 12:19:13 |
 j-k |
In openSUSE, we also made it deterministic using non-parallel builds for now
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| j-k | although compiling pandoc with 1 thread doesnt sound fun | 13:16:23 |
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| 18 Nov 2021 |
 r-burns | In reply to @siraben:matrix.org
I'd love to look into that if anyone would like to collaborate, especially if they're familiar with how stdenv works im very interested in this, would love to collab :) | 18:45:26 |
| 19 Nov 2021 |
 baloo | work just had a problem with file ordering, and two builder not behaving the same. | 23:52:16 |
| baloo | ended a python import loop that only happened if one file was loaded before the other | 23:52:37 |
| baloo | but ... I guess disorderfs could find a couple of those | 23:52:50 |
| baloo | a doing import b; def bar(): b.foo() where b was doing from a import bar; def foo(): | 23:54:53 |
| baloo | because the checkPhase will load every file to look for unittest.TestCase, it will load every file, depending on the order they're loaded, it will fail | 23:55:53 |
| baloo | * ended up being a python import loop that only happened if one file was loaded before the other | 23:56:36 |
| 20 Nov 2021 |
 Sandro 🐧 | Same filesystem? | 02:27:30 |
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| baloo | yup | 23:22:44 |
| 21 Nov 2021 |
 siraben | In reply to @r-burns:matrix.org
im very interested in this, would love to collab :) Great! Currently I'm busy for the rest of 2021 but feel free to look into some of the preliminary discussion on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/123095 and join #bootstrappable:libera.chat | 18:33:38 |
| 22 Nov 2021 |
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| 25 Nov 2021 |
| j-k | In reply to @siraben:matrix.org
Great! Currently I'm busy for the rest of 2021 but feel free to look into some of the preliminary discussion on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/123095 and join #bootstrappable:libera.chat This is also of interest to me. I'm not familiar with GNU Mes but I'd love to help | 09:58:08 |
 Rick (Mindavi) | I would think that running through the bootstrap process with MES should be enough to get a good overview of what's involved in it | 10:42:07 |
| j-k | I've read through the live-bootstrap docs but I guess an actual run through would be good | 11:20:55 |
