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28 Jun 2021
@fzakaria:matrix.orgfzakariaThis PR is somewhat relevant to this channel: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/12847415:33:25
29 Jun 2021
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@raboof:matrix.orgraboofRedacted or Malformed Event15:16:36
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30 Jun 2021
@jcie74:matrix.orgpie_congrats on zero!!!17:21:21
@jcie74:matrix.orgpie_(a bit late :P)17:21:25
@afontain:gnugen.chafontainso, can we help getting more packages reproducible maybe ?23:07:28
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberekAbsolutely. But I guess we need a new milestone. The graphical iso is a big jump, but I don’t even know what the delta is. Perhaps we add it as another metric to r13y.com?23:27:15
1 Jul 2021
@cleverca22:matrix.orgcleverca22
In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
Absolutely. But I guess we need a new milestone. The graphical iso is a big jump, but I don’t even know what the delta is. Perhaps we add it as another metric to r13y.com?
there is also a known (and not yet fixed) bug involving mime info merging, it only happens if 2 packages with mime info get into systemPackages
01:52:29
@siraben:matrix.orgsirabenIt should be easier for people to check reproducibility of their own packages as well04:53:13
@raboof:matrix.orgraboof
In reply to @siraben:matrix.org
It should be easier for people to check reproducibility of their own packages as well
for a leaf package nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A mypackage --check, is a good start, right? seems pretty easy :)
14:59:32
@raboof:matrix.orgraboofbut making it easier to do a 'recursive' rebuild would be cool, too, things like "given a derivation, I trust cache.nixos.org, but I want to rebuild the rest and compare the result with the results from other builders"15:06:05
@raboof:matrix.orgraboof adisbladis' trustix project (https://github.com/tweag/trustix) seems super interesting in that area, but I get the impression that it's not really ready for collaboration yet? 15:06:53
@raboof:matrix.orgraboofI would also like it if we could somehow integrate reproducibility in the review process more - not requiring it yet, but at least making it visible. I think there were some approaches to that discussed above (doing something in nixpkgs-review and/or adding a flag somewhere that a package is intended to be reproducible)15:09:00
@adis:blad.isadisbladis
In reply to @raboof:matrix.org
adisbladis' trustix project (https://github.com/tweag/trustix) seems super interesting in that area, but I get the impression that it's not really ready for collaboration yet?
I'd say it's ready for collaboration but recently I've not been able to give it quite the attention it deserves
15:09:54
@raboof:matrix.orgraboofand of course there's https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/125380 - I hope I haven't scared you all away with all my chatter in that issue :D15:15:19
@fzakaria:matrix.orgfzakaria --check is kind of frustrating 16:02:04
@fzakaria:matrix.orgfzakariabecause it has to already be in the store16:02:10
@fzakaria:matrix.orgfzakariaI think there's opportunity in the newer CLI to make it a better experience here.16:02:23
@fzakaria:matrix.orgfzakariamaybe integrate with diffoscope directly.16:02:30
@synthetica:matrix.orgSyntheticaYeah, I want a "no-really-build-this-even-if-you-think-you-already-have-it" flag16:45:57
@synthetica:matrix.orgSyntheticamaybe a bit less verbose16:46:02
@siraben:matrix.orgsirabenBoss level: https://github.com/ligurio/unreliablefs17:23:24
@raboof:matrix.orgraboof nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A mypackage && nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A mypackage --check? ;) 17:31:42
@siraben:matrix.orgsiraben --check is nice but barely adds variation to the build setup 17:45:22
@siraben:matrix.orgsirabenI want to be able to automatically test on different kernels and at different times somehow17:45:42
@afontain:gnugen.chafontain
In reply to @siraben:matrix.org
Boss level: https://github.com/ligurio/unreliablefs
that's like disorderfs, but much more evil
17:48:19
@afontain:gnugen.chafontainI'd expect many software not to be able to survive this17:48:35
@siraben:matrix.orgsirabenradiation hardening time17:51:09

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