| 27 May 2021 |
 NinjaTrappeur | https://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/748-Thoughts_on_bootstrapping_GHC | 06:30:14 |
 siraben | x-post from Melg8: "If there somebody interested in nix bootstrap, please checkout https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/123095 i think we need some discussion/thoughts about it. " | 06:33:13 |
| NinjaTrappeur | I remember reading a WIP based on hugs but I can't find the link anymore :( TL;DR: there's been some effort in that area, but as far as I can tell, nothing beyond a WIP. | 06:33:22 |
| siraben | the only fully bootstrappable Haskell compiler I'm aware of right now is https://github.com/OriansJ/blynn-compiler which implements a subset of GHC's Haskell (enough for it to self-host and be accepted by GHC) | 06:34:38 |
| siraben | but GHC itself has lost a bootstrap long ago | 07:24:46 |
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| 28 May 2021 |
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| 29 May 2021 |
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 immae | https://r13y.com/ still mentions #nixos-r13y (cc grahamc (he/him)) | 09:46:34 |
| immae | (and congratulations for managing to remove gcc from the unreproductible list btw!) | 09:48:49 |
 @grahamc:nixos.org | Can you send me a pr? Grahamc/r13y.com I think | 11:29:11 |
| siraben | In reply to @immae:matrix.org
(and congratulations for managing to remove gcc from the unreproductible list btw!) yay! | 11:44:58 |
| siraben | what was the effect on performance of compiled binaries? | 11:45:16 |
 andi- | In reply to @siraben:matrix.org
what was the effect on performance of compiled binaries? Compilation is now about 10% slower IIRC | 11:46:07 |
| siraben | oh, and are the binaries slower? | 11:46:50 |
| andi- | No | 12:09:29 |
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| immae | sure | 12:56:15 |
| siraben | andi-: why does compiling become slower? | 13:01:36 |
| andi- | siraben: the produced GCC binary no longer is PGO optimized. | 13:02:03 |
| andi- | because the PGO stop wasn't reproducible | 13:02:19 |
| siraben | Ah. Is that acceptable for the rest of Nixpkgs? | 13:02:36 |
| andi- | I think so | 13:05:16 |
| andi- | baloo was looking into making it reproducible | 13:05:30 |
| andi- | And I am trying to do the same for python (with little success). | 13:05:43 |
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| 30 May 2021 |
 raboof | that 10% wasn't very scientific btw AFAIK, I tried getting more reliable numbers but it varied wildly so I didn't really get anywhere yet | 11:57:14 |
