| 8 May 2022 |
 davidak | the license forbids to use the code in MIT code which will be made proprietary eventually. feel free to ask them how strict they see it | 08:14:51 |
 Alyssa Ross | we wouldn't be using the code though | 08:42:31 |
| Alyssa Ross | ideas and algorithms are not copyrightable | 08:42:38 |
| Alyssa Ross | so i highly doubt a bootstrap path would be | 08:42:45 |
 moritz.hedtke | In reply to @qyliss:fairydust.space
ideas and algorithms are not copyrightable Some try to pretend they are but yes | 09:49:11 |
| moritz.hedtke | Like there are patents on that (though patents are another thing( | 09:49:31 |
| moritz.hedtke | * ~~Some try to pretend they are but yes~~ | 09:50:01 |
| moritz.hedtke | * ~Some try to pretend they are but yes~ | 09:50:08 |
| moritz.hedtke | * __Some try to pretend they are but yes__ | 09:50:20 |
| moritz.hedtke | * Some try to pretend they are but yes | 09:50:30 |
| moritz.hedtke | * ~~Some try to pretend they are but yes~~ | 09:50:47 |
| moritz.hedtke | * ~~Like there are patents on that (though patents are another thing)~~ | 09:50:52 |
| moritz.hedtke | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_room_design just read the first paragraph. It protects against copyrights so if you can show you did a clean room design they can't sue you. If we don't and they would sue us we would probably need so show that we didn't simply copy their code. Don't know how hard that would be if it would probably be a different programming language but yeah | 09:59:18 |
 @rnhmjoj:maxwell.ydns.eu | has any FOSS project ever sued another for this? I can't imaging GNU suing uutils, which IIRC is pretty much a rip off of their coreutils | 12:30:21 |
| Alyssa Ross | it's a reimplementation, but I'm not aware of any reason it would be infringing on their IP | 13:07:07 |
| Alyssa Ross | if reimplementations were illegal GNU couldn't exist in the first place | 13:07:22 |
| @rnhmjoj:maxwell.ydns.eu | yes, but IIRC from the discussion around it some years ago, they didn't do a clean room design, so it's not just implementing a public AP | 15:06:00 |
| @rnhmjoj:maxwell.ydns.eu | * yes, but IIRC from the discussion around it some years ago, they didn't do a clean room design, so it's not just implementing a public API | 15:06:13 |
| 10 May 2022 |
 artturin | Redacted or Malformed Event | 17:00:48 |
| artturin | In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
siraben: newest iso_minimal run: https://tomberek.info/r13y.com/ could you run it again? | 17:01:07 |
| artturin | the dbus repro issue isn't fixed yet but will be fixed in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/172367 | 18:35:28 |
 tomberek | In reply to @artturin:matrix.org
could you run it again? in progress: https://buildkite.com/tomberek/r13y/builds/31#b65ca6ab-31a2-4558-bb11-1adbe0d37b58 | 18:55:41 |
| 11 May 2022 |
|  ryne joined the room. | 15:50:33 |
| tomberek | https://tomberek.info/r13y.com/ updated | 17:44:07 |
| 12 May 2022 |
| artturin | the sphinx impurity is due to https://github.com/sphinx-doc/sphinx/blob/068f802df90ea790f89319094e407c4d5f6c26ff/setup.cfg#L6 | 00:17:22 |
| artturin | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/172642 | 00:48:44 |
 j-k | closing the loop in the systemd stage 1 r13y issues: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/22174
should be fixed in the next release (apparently soon) need to work out if we bother pulling in the patch early or just wait | 08:24:26 |
| 14 May 2022 |
|  cormont joined the room. | 09:51:38 |
 Melg8 | In reply to @rick:matrix.ciphernetics.nl
Was thinking about this project just the other day, cool to see the progress You can checkout my attempt in doing this - raw derivations from single bin file, without bash, only by using kaem scripts, with additional scripts to strip away nix code and make it as raw kaem scripts. It's outdated, but could be usefull. And it's MIT licensed :) Outdated though. I was doing it a year ago. https://github.com/melg8/cit/tree/feature/BootstrapNix/bootstrap_nix/bootstrap_seeds | 19:33:47 |
| 16 May 2022 |
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