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4 May 2022
@rick:matrix.ciphernetics.nl@rick:matrix.ciphernetics.nlWhich helps a lot actually15:31:25
5 May 2022
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8 May 2022
@davidak:matrix.orgdavidaklegally you are not allowed to look at the guix code (GPL) and implement it with that knowledge in nixpkgs (MIT). but i'm not sure if they will sue us00:33:22
@afontain:gnugen.chafontainI don't think it's about looking I think06:50:09
@afontain:gnugen.chafontainI think it's about copying06:50:17
@afontain:gnugen.chafontainmaybe worst case you can do that thing where someone can describe how it works and another implement it and you're sure06:52:02
@afontain:gnugen.chafontainalso it depends on the country06:52:31
@afontain:gnugen.chafontain(for example I would worry less in the EU)06:53:15
@afontain:gnugen.chafontainnow, I am not a lawyer, yada yada06:53:20
@afontain:gnugen.chafontain* (for example I would worry less if EU juridiction applies)06:53:38
@davidak:matrix.orgdavidakclean room reimplementation is a think. like the wine people can only publish their work when they haven't looked at leaked windows code or when they had access under NDA. not sure how that works in detail legally07:01:50
@davidak:matrix.orgdavidak * clean room reimplementation is a thing. like the wine people can only publish their work when they haven't looked at leaked windows code or when they had access under NDA. not sure how that works in detail legally07:02:01
@afontain:gnugen.chafontainI mean, what are the essential 4 free software liberties?07:24:16
@afontain:gnugen.chafontain4th is about learning07:24:31
@afontain:gnugen.chafontainI'd be surprised if guix would claim that you can't look at their code and use the knowledge you learned07:25:53
@afontain:gnugen.chafontain* I'd be surprised if guix would claim that you can't look at their code and use the knowledge you learned [to write another implementation]07:26:18
@davidak:matrix.orgdavidakthe license forbids to use the code in MIT code which will be made proprietary eventually. feel free to ask them how strict they see it08:14:51
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa Rosswe wouldn't be using the code though08:42:31
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa Rossideas and algorithms are not copyrightable08:42:38
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa Rossso i highly doubt a bootstrap path would be08:42:45
@moritz.hedtke:matrix.orgmoritz.hedtke
In reply to @qyliss:fairydust.space
ideas and algorithms are not copyrightable
Some try to pretend they are but yes
09:49:11
@moritz.hedtke:matrix.orgmoritz.hedtkeLike there are patents on that (though patents are another thing(09:49:31
@moritz.hedtke:matrix.orgmoritz.hedtke* ~~Some try to pretend they are but yes~~09:50:01
@moritz.hedtke:matrix.orgmoritz.hedtke* ~Some try to pretend they are but yes~09:50:08
@moritz.hedtke:matrix.orgmoritz.hedtke* __Some try to pretend they are but yes__09:50:20
@moritz.hedtke:matrix.orgmoritz.hedtke* Some try to pretend they are but yes09:50:30

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