| 9 Jun 2025 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | the goal is to find something minimal that triggers it | 10:51:40 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | and this was just a naive blind guess to see if it was easy, and turns out that no it isn't | 10:52:00 |
 raboof | right, but iirc ibus needs a fair number of rebuilds to actually hit the problem | 11:15:47 |
 fricklerhandwerk | The main chunk of work happened in 2023 here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/227914
All of this stuff works now except cross-compiling GCC to 64 bit, which should merely involve setting the right flags | 11:39:05 |
| raboof | I'll admit it's not clear to me how all that works in practice ;) - would that allow us to create, say, a qemu disk image with only sources (and those 256b) on it that'd when 'booted' bootstrap itself to a functional shell? or is that not the idea? | 13:42:14 |
 Julien | I think the assumptions are: Nix + a running kernel + those 256b allows you to build all nixpkgs | 13:53:23 |
| Julien | Obviously the assumptions are broken at multiple places in nixpkgs when other binary blobs are downloaded | 13:53:50 |
 emily | in particular I believe the goal is to produce a bootstrap tools tarball from those | 13:59:01 |
| emily | that can replace the current "mystery meat" one | 13:59:11 |
| emily | so that the bootstrap tools could be audited more easily | 13:59:22 |
| raboof | wrt 'other binary blobs', ideally allowNonSource = false should help with that (assuming all such cases are properly marked, which is probably not fully the case ;) ) | 14:00:09 |
| emily | btw, there is non-Nix work on solving the "running kernel" part that goes through tiny bare metal kernels and something called "Fiwix" :) https://lwn.net/Articles/983340/ | 14:00:15 |
