| 27 Jun 2021 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Doesn't matter how long it takes to get there, we can only speed it up. | 01:45:21 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * Doesn't matter how long it takes to get there, we can only speed it up or slow it down. | 01:45:26 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | What people need are probably simpler explanations in the form of videos. I have a few videos I want to make:
- Declarative Samba
- Declarative Windows VMs
- Declarative Android system image
Things like this are going to shock and wow.
| 01:46:45 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Offtopic though. Unsure if we have a marketing channel to discuss. | 01:52:56 |
 Dandellion | #marketing:nixos.org | 01:53:44 |
 tomberek | I agree it was a missed opportunity. This was brought up in the marketing meeting. We also don’t have a clean story for the “so what” for reproducibility. In fact, this is true for Nix overall. There’s been an acknowledgment that documentation needs to improve, but I’m also thinking a clear/short enumeration of “why” would be helpful. Additionally, an even shorter slogan (I’m thinking of Rust’s) may help. | 03:52:52 |
 Jonas Chevalier | It would be nice to come up with a way to prevent regressions on the minimal ISO. Like mark the derivations with reproducible = true and extend Hydra to support that. That way it will become possible to extend the reproducible build surface without making it an uphill battle. | 11:54:44 |
 andi- | Would it be sufficient to have the installer a different jobset in hydra and use that reproduce option that is already has? I vaguely remember that hydra was able to build things twice (or more often). | 11:56:05 |
 Gytis Ivaskevicius | In reply to @zimbatm:numtide.com
It would be nice to come up with a way to prevent regressions on the minimal ISO. Like mark the derivations with reproducible = true and extend Hydra to support that. That way it will become possible to extend the reproducible build surface without making it an uphill battle. Maybe it would be cool to have anonymous statistics when running nixpkgs-review and show em in PR. Possibly with history as well 👀 | 19:35:41 |
| Gytis Ivaskevicius | Probably scope is a little too large. Kinda bothersome | 19:36:01 |
| 28 Jun 2021 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone changed their display name from matthewcroughan to matthewcroughan - nix.zone. | 02:20:50 |
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| fzakaria | Hello! | 15:24:43 |
| fzakaria | Jonas Chevalier: that's not a bad idea; kind of in between having a fixedOutput but not as deterimental to contributions or changes (having to change). | 15:31:20 |
| fzakaria | Collecting statistics on the # of nixpkgs that are fixedOutput or reproducible via eval would be great | 15:31:48 |
| fzakaria | (an attribute would allow that) | 15:31:54 |
| fzakaria | This PR is somewhat relevant to this channel: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/128474 | 15:33:25 |
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 raboof | Redacted or Malformed Event | 15:16:36 |
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| 30 Jun 2021 |
 pie_ | congrats on zero!!! | 17:21:21 |
| pie_ | (a bit late :P) | 17:21:25 |
 afontain | so, can we help getting more packages reproducible maybe ? | 23:07:28 |
| tomberek | Absolutely. But I guess we need a new milestone. The graphical iso is a big jump, but I don’t even know what the delta is. Perhaps we add it as another metric to r13y.com? | 23:27:15 |
| 1 Jul 2021 |
 cleverca22 | In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
Absolutely. But I guess we need a new milestone. The graphical iso is a big jump, but I don’t even know what the delta is. Perhaps we add it as another metric to r13y.com? there is also a known (and not yet fixed) bug involving mime info merging, it only happens if 2 packages with mime info get into systemPackages | 01:52:29 |
 siraben (he/him) | It should be easier for people to check reproducibility of their own packages as well | 04:53:13 |
| raboof | In reply to @siraben:matrix.org
It should be easier for people to check reproducibility of their own packages as well for a leaf package nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A mypackage --check, is a good start, right? seems pretty easy :) | 14:59:32 |
