| 15 Aug 2025 |
 K900 | Don't think so | 15:31:53 |
| K900 | Angie is a little sus to me because it's made by the ex-Nginx folks that stayed behind in Russia | 15:32:18 |
| K900 | I'm not saying it's definitely backdoored | 15:32:29 |
| K900 | But it's a little sus | 15:32:39 |
 Sandro 🐧 | We do | 16:08:13 |
 raitobezarius | we have angieQuic iirc | 16:10:48 |
| raitobezarius | Izorkin did it? | 16:10:49 |
| K900 | Bleh | 16:11:13 |
| K900 | I am thoroughly blehed | 16:11:19 |
 Arian | I don't know enough about the nginx dynamics to make a decision here. Usually my brain goes original dev > weird for profit company | 16:26:16 |
| K900 | The "original dev" claim is questionable' | 16:27:22 |
| K900 | * The "original dev" claim is questionable | 16:27:23 |
| K900 | It's one of the original dev team | 16:27:28 |
| K900 | Many of who have just left over the years or are at Nginx Inc/F5 | 16:27:48 |
| K900 | And it's really just "whoever F5 didn't relocate out of Russia" | 16:28:54 |
| K900 | They're also running on government money | 16:29:03 |
| K900 | (not that there's other kinds of money in 2023 Russia) | 16:29:13 |
| raitobezarius | i remember that freenginx was made in a context where F5 was also not-so-nice | 16:29:28 |
| raitobezarius | https://mailman.nginx.org/pipermail/nginx-devel/2024-February/K5IC6VYO2PB7N4HRP2FUQIBIBCGP4WAU.html | 16:29:43 |
| K900 | Their primary target demo is also Russian companies that can't get Nginx Pro anymore | 16:29:51 |
| K900 | freenginx is at least not blood money | 16:30:26 |
| raitobezarius | isn't angie == freenginx? | 16:30:37 |
| K900 | No | 16:30:47 |
| raitobezarius | i see | 16:30:50 |
| K900 | Different people | 16:31:08 |
| K900 | freenginx is also (AFAIK, at least) entirely non-commercial | 16:31:25 |
| raitobezarius | they seems to have a relation with the freenginx peeps | 16:31:29 |
| K900 | Well they're from the same group of people | 16:31:43 |
| K900 | But they're not the same people | 16:31:49 |
| 29 Aug 2025 |
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