| 17 Oct 2022 |
 Winter (she/her) | I noticed the stamp file seems to be holding an mtime from a few hours ago, and isn't being updated by these runs. | 03:34:11 |
| Winter (she/her) | Weird! | 03:34:12 |
| Winter (she/her) | Wonder what happens if I delete it and reboot. | 03:34:31 |
| Winter (she/her) | It gets recreated as expected, gonna reboot again. I assume it won't be updated. | 03:37:26 |
| Winter (she/her) | Yup, isn't updated, timer still fires at reboot. | 03:38:49 |
 hexa | In reply to @winterqt:nixos.dev
Definitely weird how it fires every reboot no matter what, though. that is likely Persist=yes, it will run on reboot if it should have run in the meantime | 08:03:22 |
| hexa | though every reboot sounds wrong | 08:03:56 |
| hexa | are you maybe not persisting some statedir? | 08:04:04 |
| Winter (she/her) | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
are you maybe not persisting some statedir? look at the other messages where i talk about the stamp file, that's what i'm talking about.
even if the stamp file says the service ran minutes before, a reboot will make it run again, which is obviously wrong. :/ | 11:10:58 |
| Winter (she/her) | it's so weird | 11:11:08 |
| hexa | do you have a setup with non-persistent mountpoints? | 11:11:49 |
| Winter (she/her) | though that's definitely an issue i considered, and maybe there's some race condition or something | 11:11:53 |
| Winter (she/her) | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
do you have a setup with non-persistent mountpoints? what do you mean by that? (probably not, but want to clarify what you mean) | 11:12:09 |
| hexa | yeah, the wording is weird | 11:12:17 |
| hexa | uhm, erase your darlings blogpost | 11:12:22 |
| hexa | like data below / is not persistent, but instead tmpfs or zfs with rollbacks to a clean state | 11:12:47 |
| hexa | I'm wondering whether some state that tracks whether a timer has execute is not being persisted | 11:13:26 |
| hexa | and with Persist=yes it thinks it has to rerun everytime | 11:13:35 |
| Winter (she/her) | it's bring persisted | 11:20:29 |
| Winter (she/her) | that's the stamp file i'm talking about | 11:20:42 |
| Winter (she/her) | In reply to @winterqt:nixos.dev
It gets recreated as expected, gonna reboot again. I assume it won't be updated. here i show that my path is being persisted correctly, but systemd isn't stamping the file at boot after that initial creation | 11:21:49 |
| Winter (she/her) | maybe it's nginx depending on the renewal target 🤔 | 11:35:40 |
| Winter (she/her) | that would make sense lmfao | 11:40:35 |
| 19 Oct 2022 |
 m1cr0man | Depending on the renewal target in nginx shouldn't be triggering the timer? Unless, the timer is aware of when the unit last ran? Maybe I'm wrong though. | 22:57:28 |
| 20 Oct 2022 |
|  hjulle joined the room. | 12:04:33 |
| 24 Oct 2022 |
 Andreas Schrägle | the acme nixos test broke recently https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixos/trunk-combined/nixos.tests.acme.x86_64-linux / https://hydra.nixos.org/log/hv4qwbrhmnxf6h0fq70m8lxy5an0xf89-vm-test-run-acme.drv
logs indicate minica being denied a system call, if I'm not reading them wrong. any ideas why this might be happening? | 08:30:55 |
 Arian | odd | 08:32:13 |
| Arian | seems both minica and lego dumped core | 08:33:26 |
| Arian | this is really odd. maybe the go package broke? | 08:34:10 |
| Arian | aaah wait | 08:34:45 |
