| 17 Oct 2022 |
 Winter (she/her) | (Sorry for the screwed up formatting, I'm trying to edit it but my client keeps crashing.) | 03:04:04 |
| Winter (she/her) | It just seems weird -- that certainly isn't daily, and I don't think the random skew thing has any impact on this? | 03:04:31 |
| Winter (she/her) | Unless it'll then fire at 05:09:17 every day | 03:04:44 |
| Winter (she/her) | (well, until the next reboot, I guess) | 03:04:50 |
| Winter (she/her) | Definitely weird how it fires every reboot no matter what, though. | 03:05:10 |
| Winter (she/her) | (Also wow that Until: ... is confusing wording, maybe I can ask what upstream thinks about changing it.) | 03:05:46 |
| Winter (she/her) | Upon another reboot: Until: Sun 2022-10-16 23:30:55 EDT; 1min 8s ago
Trigger: Mon 2022-10-17 05:09:17 EDT; 5h 37min left
| 03:32:36 |
| Winter (she/her) | I noticed the stamp file seems to be holding an mtime from a few hours ago, and isn't being updated by these runs. | 03:34:11 |
| Winter (she/her) | Weird! | 03:34:12 |
| Winter (she/her) | Wonder what happens if I delete it and reboot. | 03:34:31 |
| Winter (she/her) | It gets recreated as expected, gonna reboot again. I assume it won't be updated. | 03:37:26 |
| Winter (she/her) | Yup, isn't updated, timer still fires at reboot. | 03:38:49 |
 hexa | In reply to @winterqt:nixos.dev
Definitely weird how it fires every reboot no matter what, though. that is likely Persist=yes, it will run on reboot if it should have run in the meantime | 08:03:22 |
| hexa | though every reboot sounds wrong | 08:03:56 |
| hexa | are you maybe not persisting some statedir? | 08:04:04 |
| Winter (she/her) | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
are you maybe not persisting some statedir? look at the other messages where i talk about the stamp file, that's what i'm talking about.
even if the stamp file says the service ran minutes before, a reboot will make it run again, which is obviously wrong. :/ | 11:10:58 |
| Winter (she/her) | it's so weird | 11:11:08 |
| hexa | do you have a setup with non-persistent mountpoints? | 11:11:49 |
| Winter (she/her) | though that's definitely an issue i considered, and maybe there's some race condition or something | 11:11:53 |
| Winter (she/her) | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
do you have a setup with non-persistent mountpoints? what do you mean by that? (probably not, but want to clarify what you mean) | 11:12:09 |
| hexa | yeah, the wording is weird | 11:12:17 |
| hexa | uhm, erase your darlings blogpost | 11:12:22 |
| hexa | like data below / is not persistent, but instead tmpfs or zfs with rollbacks to a clean state | 11:12:47 |
| hexa | I'm wondering whether some state that tracks whether a timer has execute is not being persisted | 11:13:26 |
| hexa | and with Persist=yes it thinks it has to rerun everytime | 11:13:35 |
| Winter (she/her) | it's bring persisted | 11:20:29 |
| Winter (she/her) | that's the stamp file i'm talking about | 11:20:42 |
| Winter (she/her) | In reply to @winterqt:nixos.dev
It gets recreated as expected, gonna reboot again. I assume it won't be updated. here i show that my path is being persisted correctly, but systemd isn't stamping the file at boot after that initial creation | 11:21:49 |
| Winter (she/her) | maybe it's nginx depending on the renewal target 🤔 | 11:35:40 |
| Winter (she/her) | that would make sense lmfao | 11:40:35 |
