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NixOS ACME / LetsEncrypt

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@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusIf we implement the solution in systemd, while it's true that the latency of getting those changes in systemd takes time, it does not prevent anyone running them inside of an organization :)12:53:46
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI am biased either way as a systemd and NixOS developer and see the value of having this upstream rather than specialized here12:54:48
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusSo don't take my opinion as a blocker or whatever12:55:06
@os:matrix.flyingcircus.ioosnyx (he/him)
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The question is for whom are you solving this such urgently?
Whether this is urgent for NixOS upstream is partly your decision as the maintainers team (as a personal user I'd say yes as well), but the implementation I am doing for FlyingCircus.
12:55:25
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusFrom my personal perspective as a NixOS developer, there's an appetite for anti concurrency for any systemd service honestly12:55:59
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusGiving a pass to ACME is probably fine because of the importance12:56:14
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBut I don't think we could accept the proliferation of this ad-hoc everywhere12:56:25
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusHence my desire to solve it at the primitive level12:56:35
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusTherefore I don't think there's an emergency beyond ACME large users (you and some folks, including me)12:57:16
@os:matrix.flyingcircus.ioosnyx (he/him)AFAIK keeping patches on NixOS modules downstream is not that easy, correct me if I'm wrong. Additionally to being good citizens in the NixOS community and trying to wor upstream-first for apparent bugs, I'd of course also want to prevent having to maintain a downstream module fork.12:57:38
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius(of course I say this and microman is the maintainer of this subsystem)12:57:42

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