| 13 Oct 2024 |
 emily | given that they don't have a release based on anything else | 18:21:51 |
| emily | well, ok, they have a "Future version" "Preview" | 18:22:18 |
| emily | with "Note that Thunderbird 128 and hence Betterbird 128 is shipping with a broken backend, causing IMAP folder corruption under some circumstances. Currently, we do not recommend version 128 for productive use." | 18:22:22 |
 hexa |
Future version: Betterbird 128 ESR "Preview" (128.3.1esr-bb12, 11 October 2024)
| 18:22:23 |
| emily | between dropping it and shipping a version they call "future" "preview" and tell you not to use, I think I'd pick the former, given the history here | 18:22:45 |
| hexa | sure | 18:23:01 |
| hexa | I'm using 128 esr with chonky imap folders | 18:23:15 |
| emily | well, this gets back to the Betterbird guy having beef with Thunderbird upstream, I think. | 18:23:40 |
| emily | the site is all about how Thunderbird is broken and they fix things that Thunderbird won't let people fix. | 18:23:51 |
| * hexa nods | 18:23:59 |
| emily | "Breaking news: Mozilla will support the 115 series until 115.21 in March 2025. Maybe Thunderbird 128 will be stable by then. We will ship further versions in the 115 series." 🤔 | 18:25:48 |
| emily | is Thunderbird getting an ESR Gecko that Firefox isn't?? | 18:25:59 |
| hexa | uh what | 18:26:03 |
| emily | https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/planning/T6689f5ad30cc4731-Mf77a2c4c3ba54c23286a9d04 | 18:26:11 |
| emily | lol | 18:26:16 |
| emily |
As you may know, Firefox has decided to extend support of 115 only for Windows 7/8 and macOS 10.12-10.14 until March 2025.
We will not be extending support of Thunderbird 115 in the same way. It will end as normally scheduled, so the last version will be 115.15.x (there may be one more minor update after 115.15.0).
| 18:26:19 |
| emily | ok the betterbird guy is just wrong (and the Firefox extension doesn't apply to us) | 18:26:27 |
| hexa | https://whattrainisitnow.com/calendar/ | 18:26:35 |
| hexa | hrm 🫠| 18:26:40 |
| emily | though there's already 115.16 | 18:26:52 |
| emily | so maybe they changed their mind? | 18:26:58 |
| hexa | annoying | 18:27:00 |
| emily | I wonder about "for Windows 7/8 and macOS 10.12-10.14 until March 2025", though | 18:27:10 |
| emily | is that the reason to extend the support, or are they only committing to fixes for Windows/macOS? | 18:27:22 |
| emily | https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-users-windows-7-8-and-81-moving-extended-support | 18:27:39 |
| hexa | sounds like harm reduction | 18:27:40 |
| emily |
Mozilla is providing critical security updates through the Firefox ESR channel up until the end of ESR version 115, March 2025.
| 18:27:47 |
| emily | it will go EOL before 25.05 anyway | 18:29:07 |
| emily | so probably best not to ship | 18:29:11 |
| hexa | we yank releases mid-cycle all the time for firefox | 18:30:13 |
