| 1 Sep 2022 |
 Sandro 🐧 | * I don't have the time to do a ~~shity~~ seemingly never ending bikeshedding RFC | 13:55:10 |
| Sandro 🐧 | * I don't have the time to do a ~shity~ seemingly never ending bikeshedding RFC | 13:55:16 |
| Sandro 🐧 | * I don't have the time to do a shity seemingly never ending bikeshedding RFC | 13:56:02 |
| Sandro 🐧 | In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org
I agree it's a bit unclear whether to even have this information in-tree, but doing it differently would be probably a very large change. we would need to replace the entire current system with some kind of stateful data source from the web | 13:56:46 |
| Sandro 🐧 | could be very similar to the current command-not-found database which has no real support in nix-index | 13:57:14 |
| Sandro 🐧 | well, you can download the old one from the channel or use nix-index which overloads the network when creating the database. | 13:57:44 |
 hexa | In reply to @sandro:supersandro.de
probably goes into a similar direction then feel free to voice your concerns on the rfc | 14:41:15 |
| hexa | there will be a shepherd meeting around the 9th | 14:41:32 |
| Sandro 🐧 | I am more concerned that the RFC did not move for ~2-3 months depending how you count and proposed and immediate solution to a problem I saw. | 14:59:10 |
| 2 Sep 2022 |
|  problems changed their display name from ash (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ to problems. | 14:08:42 |
| 3 Sep 2022 |
 @v0id:nltrix.net | https://www.thetechoutlook.com/news/current-affairs/peter-eckersley-the-founder-of-lets-encrypt-has-left-the-tech-industry-in-tears/ | 17:23:31 |
 vcunat | Uh, from the title I wondered why he's crying. | 17:31:20 |
 K900 | Yeah, probably should have said "The passing of Peter Eckersley" | 17:36:39 |
| K900 | Fuck cancer, man | 17:38:44 |
 @pennae:matrix.eno.space | at least he won't have to deal with all this interminable bullshit anymore | 17:40:07 |
| K900 | You gotta respect people that when faced with bullshit just go and start slowly painfully unfucking it | 17:42:55 |
| K900 | Takes a lot of commitment | 17:43:19 |
| @pennae:matrix.eno.space | (and disregard for own health, in many cases) | 17:44:27 |
| 5 Sep 2022 |
 @delroth:delroth.net | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/services/monitoring/grafana.nix#L494 this really looks like something which shouldn't be default-hardcoded | 19:57:47 |
| K900 | I'm pretty sure it's just used for, like, Prometheus passwords | 19:58:47 |
| K900 | So you need to get into the database for it to be useful | 19:59:02 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | ahh, from its name this sounded like something which would be used for e.g. sessions and such | 20:05:39 |
| @delroth:delroth.net | not sure why that's even useful... | 20:06:01 |
| hexa | hrm | 20:06:04 |
| hexa | it smells | 20:06:08 |
| hexa | https://github.com/grafana/grafana/blob/main/conf/defaults.ini#L250 | 20:06:56 |
 Zhaofeng Li | This is worrying: https://github.com/grafana/grafana/issues/15348
The secret_key are used for encrypt/decrypt sensitive information stored in/read from the database. With #15303 implemented the secret_key is also used for hashing tokens stored in the database.
| 20:08:53 |
| Zhaofeng Li | From the linked #15303 issue, looks like it's also used for the auth tokens | 20:09:30 |
| K900 | https://github.com/grafana/grafana/blob/67ea2da57e0f0d47d98ed3ee8513f0277d9c1ba9/docs/sources/setup-grafana/configure-security/configure-database-encryption/_index.md#configure-database-encryption | 20:09:51 |
|  mae changed their display name from Bad to mae. | 22:37:03 |
