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11 Dec 2025
@pyrox:pyrox.devdish [Fox/It/She]thank you again for all your work! Really amazing to have this as an option04:24:31
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@aleksi:pikaviestin.fialeksi

Awesome! I've updated my PR as well. I am open to joining the minimal-bootstrap team as well if it needs more hands

09:54:06
@aleksi:pikaviestin.fialeksi

Oh and I tested the builds post-GC and didn't get any FOD issues (:

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@pyrox:pyrox.devdish [Fox/It/She] Feel free to add yourself to the team in the PR, and if you do so, please add me as well!(my maintainers attribute is pyrox0 20:45:00
12 Dec 2025
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13 Dec 2025
@sarunint:matrix.sarunint.comSarun IntaralawanHi, I've just discovered this `minimal-bootstrap` thing and I have a question. What's left before we can bootstrap stdenv from all of this?00:24:08
@k900:0upti.meK900It should be technically doable right now00:37:44
@k900:0upti.meK900But the real question is, why are you asking00:37:50
@pyrox:pyrox.devdish [Fox/It/She] There's some additional packages we need to add in order to have a proper set of bootstrap packages, and ideally they will support both x8664-linux and i686-linux. Other systems need other things besides more packages for support(there is an in-flight PR to add x8664-linux support to the existing i686-only bootstrap, but that will be merged sometime this weekend)

As an end-user, this still can't be used right now, since it doesn't have everything in static builds that the current bootstrap files have. Is there a specific use-case you need it for, or something else? This has been a fairly slow-going project just because its work few folks want to do, but I'm trying to push it forward and get us to a point that this could be used
03:32:32
@sarunint:matrix.sarunint.comSarun IntaralawanWell, I'm just interested. Last week I had a question of "How did stdenv got build in the first place?" and I fell into the usual rabbit hole after that. Excited for things that are coming up!07:04:28
14 Dec 2025
@pyrox:pyrox.devdish [Fox/It/She] merged your PR, thank you agin 02:59:01
@pyrox:pyrox.devdish [Fox/It/She]* merged your PR, thank you again02:59:02
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers (it/fae) ope, just tried nom-build -A minimal-bootstrap.test on master and also hit a hash mismatch as above. given it's on https://repo.or.cz/tinycc.git, I suspect this is the same problem that aux hit: these URLs are behind anubis (even the git archive URLs), and so sometimes you'll get served the anubis hash instead 03:08:18
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers (it/fae) * ope, just tried nom-build -A minimal-bootstrap.test on master and also hit a hash mismatch as above. given it's on https://repo.or.cz/tinycc.git, I suspect this is the same problem that the auxolotl folks hit when trying thi: these URLs are behind anubis (even the git archive URLs), and so sometimes you'll get served the anubis hash instead 03:08:32
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers (it/fae) * ope, just tried nom-build -A minimal-bootstrap.test on master and also hit a hash mismatch as above. given it's on https://repo.or.cz/tinycc.git, I suspect this is the same problem that the auxolotl folks hit when trying this: these URLs are behind anubis (even the git archive URLs), and so sometimes you'll get served the anubis hash instead 03:08:36
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers (it/fae)would explain why it's spurious too, i think03:09:01
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers (it/fae)Redacted or Malformed Event03:10:17
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers (it/fae) * oh no, there are several spurious hash mismatches here (i.e. solved by just running a build again). that's so fun, but eh, probably fine long-term 03:10:33
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers (it/fae) * oh no, there are several spurious hash mismatches here (i.e. solved by just running a build again). that's annoying, but probably fine 03:10:45
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers (it/fae) * oh no, there are several spurious hash mismatches here (i.e. solved by just running a build again), nyacc also failed once as well. that's annoying, but probably fine 03:12:25
@winter:catgirl.cloudWinterare we not using fetchgit for that repo? (if we were at least the build would fail…)03:14:35
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers (it/fae)the issue has faded into my scrollback, but i think it was tinycc-musl, and it doesn't look like it https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/604c2f3e6eb4b8725779168e9adef366252e8598/pkgs/os-specific/linux/minimal-bootstrap/tinycc/musl.nix#L17-L2003:18:05
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers (it/fae)* the issue has faded past the limit of my scrollback, but i think it was tinycc-musl, and it doesn't look like it https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/604c2f3e6eb4b8725779168e9adef366252e8598/pkgs/os-specific/linux/minimal-bootstrap/tinycc/musl.nix#L17-L2003:18:43
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers (it/fae)* doesn't look like it https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/604c2f3e6eb4b8725779168e9adef366252e8598/pkgs/os-specific/linux/minimal-bootstrap/tinycc/musl.nix#L17-L2003:20:14
@aleksi:pikaviestin.fialeksi

Oh, totally forgot about this. There's also that repo.or.cz geo-blocks UK at the moment. There's a GitHub mirror, but I suppose it might be tricky to set up mirror rotation before we have curl?

10:08:37
@aleksi:pikaviestin.fialeksi

I guess fetchgit with lowercase g would also not be available, but I've just learned about similarly named builtin fetchGit. Could we use that?

10:10:40
@aleksi:pikaviestin.fialeksi

Or alternatively just default to the unofficial GitHub mirror, or set up a mirror of our own even

10:26:04

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