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| 9 Dec 2025 |
 aleksi | I've submitted a draft PR to support minimal-bootstrap on x86_64-linux, based on the previous PR to upgrade mes to 0.27.1.
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/469294
This is the specific delta for x86_64-linux: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/48c34b0b80801c8009a6b75728588cfee5468cff..9b6c3e609f671609f8b6add5dd572679f6527a5b | 15:29:09 |
 Ingo Blechschmidt | I'm just a bystander, but: Awesome!!! Thank you so much for this work.
For anyone following along, I believe that this can be tested from the comfort of your couch by:
nix-build -I nixpkgs=https://github.com/Gskartwii/nixpkgs/archive/bootstrap-x86_64-linux.tar.gz "<nixpkgs>" -A make-minimal-bootstrap-sources
nix-build -I nixpkgs=https://github.com/Gskartwii/nixpkgs/archive/bootstrap-x86_64-linux.tar.gz "<nixpkgs>" -A minimal-bootstrap.test
I am doing this now (and expect no problems). There was one quickly fixed issue in the beginning, I got a hash mismatch for nyacc, probably because I had already tested an earlier version? (I resolved this by appending a do-nothing question mark to the nyacc URL, prompting a redownload, for which the hash successfully validated. But I don't fully understand the root cause of this issue. On a machine with a fresh cache, this issue did not arise.)
How hard would it be to drop pkgs/stdenv/linux/bootstrap-files (for x86_64)?
| 22:00:43 |
 dish [Fox/It/She] | since I don't have an understanding of how the current bootstrap-files mechanism works, difficult. | 22:33:02 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | but with this it can be done soon | 22:33:07 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | though this also requires more tools to be built first | 22:33:18 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | see #459002 | 22:33:38 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | looked through the additional commits, nice work! | 22:40:16 |
 Tristan Ross | I will look at aarch64-linux minimal-bootstrap lol | 22:42:36 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | 👀 | 22:44:34 |
| 10 Dec 2025 |
| Ingo Blechschmidt | * I'm just a bystander, but: Awesome!!! Thank you so much for this work.
For anyone following along, I believe that this can be tested from the comfort of your couch by:
nix-build -I nixpkgs=https://github.com/Gskartwii/nixpkgs/archive/bootstrap-x86_64-linux.tar.gz "<nixpkgs>" -A make-minimal-bootstrap-sources
nix-build -I nixpkgs=https://github.com/Gskartwii/nixpkgs/archive/bootstrap-x86_64-linux.tar.gz "<nixpkgs>" -A minimal-bootstrap.test
I am doing this now (and expect no problems). There was one quickly fixed issue in the beginning, I got a hash mismatch for nyacc, probably because I had already tested an earlier version? (I resolved this by appending a do-nothing question mark to the nyacc URL, prompting a redownload, for which the hash successfully validated. But I don't fully understand the root cause of this issue. On a machine with a fresh cache, this issue did not arise.)
How hard would it be to drop pkgs/stdenv/linux/bootstrap-files (for x86_64)?
Edit. The test successfully concluded as expected.
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| aleksi | Thank you, I appreciate the testing. Credits to to dish and GNU Mes folks among others. I do want to check if I can reproduce the hash mismatch locally. I've seen issues like that, where they only appear after a gc cycle. | 06:48:36 |
| aleksi | Very exciting :D | 06:49:08 |
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| 11 Dec 2025 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | @aleksi I've force-pushed my PR to fix merge conflicts, please update your PR and then I'll merge it in the next few days(probably over the weekend) once I do a better review of it | 04:24:20 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | thank you again for all your work! Really amazing to have this as an option | 04:24:31 |
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| aleksi | Awesome! I've updated my PR as well. I am open to joining the minimal-bootstrap team as well if it needs more hands | 09:54:06 |
| aleksi | Oh and I tested the builds post-GC and didn't get any FOD issues (: | 09:56:28 |
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| dish [Fox/It/She] | Feel free to add yourself to the team in the PR, and if you do so, please add me as well!(my maintainers attribute is pyrox0 | 20:45:00 |
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| 13 Dec 2025 |
| Sarun Intaralawan | Hi, I've just discovered this `minimal-bootstrap` thing and I have a question. What's left before we can bootstrap stdenv from all of this? | 00:24:08 |
 K900 | It should be technically doable right now | 00:37:44 |
| K900 | But the real question is, why are you asking | 00:37:50 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | There's some additional packages we need to add in order to have a proper set of bootstrap packages, and ideally they will support both x8664-linux and i686-linux. Other systems need other things besides more packages for support(there is an in-flight PR to add x8664-linux support to the existing i686-only bootstrap, but that will be merged sometime this weekend)
As an end-user, this still can't be used right now, since it doesn't have everything in static builds that the current bootstrap files have. Is there a specific use-case you need it for, or something else? This has been a fairly slow-going project just because its work few folks want to do, but I'm trying to push it forward and get us to a point that this could be used | 03:32:32 |
| Sarun Intaralawan | Well, I'm just interested. Last week I had a question of "How did stdenv got build in the first place?" and I fell into the usual rabbit hole after that. Excited for things that are coming up! | 07:04:28 |
