| 22 Apr 2025 |
 emily | well the arm machines being the same price or cheaper but faster probably helped :P | 18:07:25 |
 Tristan Ross | Definitely | 18:07:39 |
| Tristan Ross | Battery life for one is a thing. | 18:07:58 |
| emily | we're not going to see a substantial amount of users and contributors on desktop AArch64 Linux as long as it's paying more for worse perf | 18:08:04 |
| emily | we surely have more using Apple Silicon fulltime | 18:08:20 |
| Tristan Ross | Yeah, that's what I've been thinking about. We need something like Apple Silicon. Decent price per performance. Not as slow as a Pi but cheaper than an Ampere. | 18:09:02 |
| 23 Apr 2025 |
 cldrpr | Thanks (and thank you for the clarification)! Let me now if you are able to give it a try and if you find anything interesting. I will be at a conference all next week but I will keeping work on this and exploring the possibility of a buildPackages/targetPackages mix-up when I get back. | 04:03:51 |
 Randy Eckenrode | Linux to Darwin cross is something I’d like to do for 25.11 (but no guarantees). | 12:06:44 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @reckenrode:matrix.org
Linux to Darwin cross is something I’d like to do for 25.11 (but no guarantees). That would be awesome to have. | 18:22:08 |
 aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | In reply to @reckenrode:matrix.org
Linux to Darwin cross is something I’d like to do for 25.11 (but no guarantees). Love to see us reaching nearly all possibilities! | 18:24:26 |
| 24 Apr 2025 |
| Tristan Ross | I'm redoing the LTO PR and adding NIX_DONT_LTO so packages which can't do LTO won't have it. | 03:41:25 |
| Tristan Ross | Hopefully, I get past pkgsLTO.stdenv.cc.libgcc | 03:43:28 |
|  gebjgd joined the room. | 13:49:34 |
| 25 Apr 2025 |
| Tristan Ross | aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC): I saw loongarch64-unknown-linux-gnu now bootstraps. Do we support loongarch32-unknown-linux-gnu cross? | 17:24:30 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | In reply to @rosscomputerguy:matrix.org
aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC): I saw loongarch64-unknown-linux-gnu now bootstraps. Do we support loongarch32-unknown-linux-gnu cross? I have no idea | 17:25:00 |
| Tristan Ross | Fun | 17:25:12 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | And I'm in bed | 17:25:18 |
| Tristan Ross | Oh ok | 17:25:23 |
 Alyssa Ross | I don't think so | 17:25:25 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | I'll see if I can do anything tomorrow | 17:25:32 |
| Alyssa Ross | It's only very recent that anything supports that AIUI | 17:25:37 |
| Tristan Ross | Gotcha, I've opened https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/401821. | 17:39:07 |
| 26 Apr 2025 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | Just found ghc963 (/nix/store/hkaxzm0yz9v8p92ay81pz4f2i741pkb1-ghc-9.6.3) depends on xgcc-libgcc (/nix/store/m2047a1xwgblgkrnbxz0yilkaqfrbf2b-xgcc-14-20241116-libgcc) | 06:36:15 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | This should not be ideal I guess? | 06:36:28 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | => nix path-info pkgs#hello-cpp --recursive
/nix/store/id29wx2vp10d5xi6wzsykd4rb9ssaikx-gcc-14-20241116-libgcc
/nix/store/m2047a1xwgblgkrnbxz0yilkaqfrbf2b-xgcc-14-20241116-libgcc
/nix/store/nj19yxkqf0iqjqn4x6dbglsvqk5bgsbs-libunistring-1.3
/nix/store/y2xxdhhjy2l5mgpm3d0rw2wxmpd61my4-libidn2-2.3.7
/nix/store/rmy663w9p7xb202rcln4jjzmvivznmz8-glibc-2.40-66
/nix/store/ik84lbv5jvjm1xxvdl8mhg52ry3xycvm-gcc-14-20241116-lib
/nix/store/h48w85a2578wgzkcf9l6r1y6216s4j8p-hello-cpp
| 06:37:05 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | glibc depends on xgcc-libgcc | 06:43:32 |
| 27 Apr 2025 |
 trofi | It's not idea, but it's intentional by nixpkgs. | 05:25:08 |
| trofi | It's embedded at https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/1ee8b713821882c66f5ecfde5c4e5874b1cb5e2f/pkgs/development/libraries/glibc/default.nix#L113 | 05:25:57 |
| trofi | Specifically glibc ever gets build by a handicap xgcc from early stages during the bootstrap:
$ nix-store --query --graph $(nix-instantiate -A glibc) |& grep -P -- '.*gcc.*->.*glibc'
"qn5vjz1dxigfax34am4k4zxcx1y3q3v0-bootstrap-stage2-gcc-wrapper-14.2.1.20250322.drv" -> "q9rikjkwdf1qnlypwxr78jfmh9q99k1g-glibc-2.40-66.drv" [color = "blue"];
"x455my7bxwf4p7wngvwi4m23lf1np2vx-xgcc-14.2.1.20250322.drv" -> "q9rikjkwdf1qnlypwxr78jfmh9q99k1g-glibc-2.40-66.drv" [color = "red"];
| 05:30:08 |
| trofi | * It's not ideal, but it's intentional by nixpkgs. | 05:40:28 |
