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21 Apr 2025
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross I thought Ofborg had the Ampere boxes from Hetzner 23:35:16
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythose are for Hydra23:35:30
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossI thought we had some for Hydra and some for Ofborg23:35:59
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyoh hm23:36:10
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyyeah I guess that changed23:36:13
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily originally it was just x86_64-linux + aarch64-darwin 23:36:22
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI thought ofborg wasn't using any Foundation machines though23:36:38
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilymaybe that changed23:36:40
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossYeah, I have seen aarch64-linux jobs showing up for Ofborg23:36:51
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I thought ofborg wasn't using any Foundation machines though
I'm not sure
23:36:57
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI agree it’s not fair, but that’s what I see from Darwin. When there’s a conflict between platforms, x86_64-linux gets the priority.23:56:23
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross
In reply to @reckenrode:matrix.org
I agree it’s not fair, but that’s what I see from Darwin. When there’s a conflict between platforms, x86_64-linux gets the priority.
Yeah, ideally they should get equal treatment
23:57:45
22 Apr 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyif they had equal userbases, that would make sense00:00:56
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossHmm, maybe we should see if the surveys the marketing team puts out could ask people what kind of hardware they run Nix or NixOS on01:25:53
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossI've sort of drafted this https://pad.lassul.us/9yYTVp73QBul7dCm6tCWsw?view01:41:29
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossThe left side is like lower tiers which means better changes of things working.01:42:26
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross So like riscv32-linux-gnu is sort of considered not really supported 01:42:46
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross While x86_64-linux-gnu has full support 01:42:57
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily surely aarch64-darwin should have user adoption rather than x86_64-darwin? 01:45:41
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythey haven't produced an x86 Mac in years01:45:48
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross🤷01:46:00
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(also I don't think cross-compilation is a criterion? maybe I'm misunderstanding)01:46:25
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossI consider being able to do cross a sort of base criteria01:48:31
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossSome systems may be exempt (like Darwin) for technical reasons01:48:50
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossThe first two criteria I consider to be a baseline support for it in nixpkgs01:49:13
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossIt means you can get a system but support is limited01:49:28
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossI think we can make an RFC that replaces RFC 46 and make a more formal set of criteria for things.01:56:02
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI think the RFC 46 criteria are pretty good, esp. in that they primarily define expectations on contributions and support rather than technical proxies for those02:00:17
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythough the ofborg part goes against that a bit :)02:00:22
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossHmm02:01:42

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