| 23 Feb 2025 |
 Tristan Ross | Yeah, I think we can slowly move there with equals vs like a isNative function. | 02:03:14 |
| Tristan Ross | I know there's canExecute but I think that's more of emulated included | 02:03:43 |
| Tristan Ross | So isNative would check more of whether the platforms are truly binary compatible | 02:04:20 |
 emily | no, hasEmulator is distinct from canExecute | 02:15:42 |
| Tristan Ross | I didn't know hasEmulator exists and I didn't bring it up. | 02:18:25 |
| emily | canExecute doesn't include emulators | 02:33:34 |
| emily | it's purely for e.g. i686 / x86_64 | 02:33:45 |
| emily | (also it's emulatorAvailable actually, whoops) | 02:34:09 |
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| 9 Mar 2025 |
 aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | I just got some really confusing differences in bash output between linux and darwin | 12:46:16 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | bash-5.2$ bash --version
GNU bash, version 5.2.37(1)-release (aarch64-apple-darwin24.3.0)
Copyright (C) 2022 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
This is free software; you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
bash-5.2$ re='\bx\b'; [[ "x" =~ $re ]] && echo "yes!" || echo "no!"
no!
| 12:46:41 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) |
[aleksana@Aleksana-Laptop:~]$ bash --version
GNU bash, version 5.2.37(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
Copyright (C) 2022 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
This is free software; you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
[aleksana@Aleksana-Laptop:~]$ re='\bx\b'; [[ "x" =~ $re ]] && echo "yes!" || echo "no!"
yes!
| 12:47:29 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | This makes some bash scripts fail on darwin, for example https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/388412/checks?check_run_id=38445097171 | 12:48:24 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | Not our problem, it's difference in libc. Not sure why bash depends on libc regex function though | 12:59:25 |
 K900 | Because of course it does | 13:00:42 |
| K900 | What's a programming language without some unexpected platform specific behavior | 13:00:53 |
| emily | In reply to @aleksana:mozilla.org
Not our problem, it's difference in libc. Not sure why bash depends on libc regex function though so does Nix. | 14:41:22 |
| emily | Nix regex behaves differently on libstdc++ and libc++ | 14:41:26 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
Nix regex behaves differently on libstdc++ and libc++ I don't get it, why do they not link some standalone libraries | 17:21:11 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | And glibc also has a POSIX ERE function I think | 17:21:43 |
 WeetHet | In reply to @aleksana:mozilla.org
I don't get it, why do they not link some standalone libraries I would say because at first it was unnecessary and then well, backwards compatibility | 17:21:59 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | Yeah | 17:22:14 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | Maybe split GLibc regex to a standalone library so it works the same way across platforms | 17:23:08 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | And it won't hurt | 17:23:15 |
| emily | just carelessness | 17:23:20 |
| emily | also maybe assuming C++ specced something reasonable | 17:23:29 |
| emily | a dangerous assumption | 17:23:34 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | GNU always has something good to force it on you | 17:24:15 |
