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10 Mar 2025
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode
In reply to @connorbaker:matrix.org
Randy Eckenrode: would you happen to know if darwin uses an out-of-the-ordinary shell with respect to Nixpkgs builds? Put another way, do darwin systems use their host machine's bash, an old/vendored version of bash, or the same version linux machines would?
I ask because I'm making setup hooks which use some bash-isms, and I see comments littered throughout Nixpkgs about hacking around old versions of bash for darwin.

Darwin uses nixpkgs Bash (whether from the bootstrap tools or freshly built).

How old are those comments? Darwin may have used the system when it had a native (impure) toolchain, but that was a decade ago.

The only exception that comes to mind is a foopkg-config script from when patchShebangs wasn’t available, but I’m pretty sure I fixed that during the Clang 16 update.

17:08:52
@connorbaker:matrix.orgconnor (burnt/out) (UTC-8)Some of them are from about a decade ago haha17:09:19
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeRedacted or Malformed Event17:11:33
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilykill 'em19:04:48
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit's just old cruft19:04:52
12 Mar 2025
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14 Mar 2025
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross

We've got a bunch of PR's and we should make progress on them. I'm thinking we can probably do:

  1. Create a project board on GH
  2. Meet regularly to discuss PR's and the current plan for the stdenv
17:44:42
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossI've made a board https://github.com/orgs/NixOS/projects/92/views/118:11:51
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossHad to rebase https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/365057 again. Let's get this reviewed and merged soon. Every time I rebase, it makes looking for previous reviews difficult.18:23:39
17 Mar 2025
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross

This Thursday (2025-03-20) @ 9am - 10am PST will be the first meeting. I hope this will allow us to have a more coordinated effort towards development.

Goals:

  • Meet & greet
  • Determine overall plan (+ 25.05)
  • Highlight work done since Oct

Link: https://jitsi.lassul.us/nixpkgs-stdenv

02:40:12
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI won't have time to do a full re-review before next weekend-ish but fwiw the last time I glanced at this there were review comments I left last time that hadn't been addressed04:07:29

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