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@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(for my part the reason is just "context switching to even a trivial task is easy for any given individual task but if I don't deliberately apply inertia to ones that don't seem like a fantastic idea to do immediately then bad things result")20:52:37
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(this does not apply to giving pointers on what needs doing but that does require someone willing to put follow-up at the top of their own stack :p )20:53:07
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily it is annoying having to keep pkg-config going 20:53:44
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI'm guessing the hook will probably give us unexpected fun when we do switch just on an unknown unknowns basis20:54:11
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)we could already run one staging with the hook and then do the actual switch after20:55:21
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)but that might be a dumb idea20:55:32
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythat won't help unless we revert our hack patch20:55:41
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)ah right20:55:48
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywhich will result in equivalent amounts of fun20:55:48
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI expect it will be fine though20:56:08
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyjust means it may not be a zero effort cycle20:56:23
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)so whats the plan, bully some poor unsuspecting yet pushy contributor (e.g. me) into writing that "simple" patch, and go ahead with all at once?20:56:44
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa RossSGTM20:57:02
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythat seems ideal yes :P20:57:04
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)dangit20:57:11
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilysending the patch upstream will sanity check anyway20:57:15
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyideally we wait for them to apply it and then switch20:57:24
@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)we also do have cmake 4, pkgconf+cmake sounds like a very fun cycle20:57:43
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa RossWe could do CMake first given pkgconf will take time20:58:13
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyCMake and obliterating the bad CMake hook are immediately doable I think21:00:05
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythere's like one blocking issue with the CMake build itself and then it's just jobset tedium21:00:29
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyGCC 15 also probably doable21:01:01
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyLLVM 20 I know Randy is working on as part of his big branch21:01:20
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybtw pkgconf also breaks Meson tests on Darwin and I have no idea why21:02:33
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywe can probably just disable them but it scares me a little21:02:43

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