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29 Dec 2025
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)the libxml2 version it vendors is from 2019 and i rather wouldn't want that mess of CVEs12:10:47
@mdaniels5757:matrix.orgmdaniels5757Redacted or Malformed Event23:26:10
@mdaniels5757:matrix.orgmdaniels5757

Looks like you can't use fetchFromGitLab in the bootstrap process (like fetchpatch)? With this patch, it evals (I haven't built):

diff --git a/pkgs/development/libraries/libxml2/default.nix b/pkgs/development/libraries/libxml2/default.nix
index 41d2b1f953f0..43df6360ade5 100644
--- a/pkgs/development/libraries/libxml2/default.nix
+++ b/pkgs/development/libraries/libxml2/default.nix
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
   lib,
   callPackage,
   fetchFromGitLab,
+  fetchurl,
   fetchpatch,
 }:

@@ -49,14 +50,12 @@ let
         ];
       };
     };
-    libxml2 = callPackage ./common.nix {
+    libxml2 = callPackage ./common.nix rec {
       version = "2.15.1";
-      src = fetchFromGitLab {
-        domain = "gitlab.gnome.org";
-        owner = "GNOME";
-        repo = "libxml2";
-        tag = "v${packages.libxml2.version}";
-        hash = "sha256-FUfYMq5xT2i88JdIw9OtSofraUL3yjsyOVund+mfJKQ=";
+      src = fetchurl {
+        name = "libxml2-${version}-source.tar.gz";
+        url = "https://gitlab.gnome.org/api/v4/projects/GNOME%2Flibxml2/repository/archive.tar.gz?sha=refs/tags/v${packages.libxml2.version}";
+        hash = "sha256-2py4DlRIlD4h1x8379d+whzsNbh8ofHpNAad/QFsTuw=";
       };
       extraMeta = {
         maintainers = with lib.maintainers; [
23:26:28
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)Ah, nice! I'll give that another shot tomorrow then!23:28:08
30 Dec 2025
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)okay, i give up. I got gettext to build with devendored libxml2, bu doesn't seem to work. The check for working c compiler in binutils fails, and didn't before10:34:17
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)oh wait hold on, now it is going? One more attempt, i just meant to clean up the patches before dumping my progress here, but 🤷10:42:02
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/475301 there, have fun. After seeing how much pain his was, i am no longer completely convinced this is a good idea, but have a PR anyways12:43:09
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)oh crap, darwin12:43:41
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)AAA12:43:42
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)painful12:43:51
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)and musl too... UGH12:49:02
@grimmauld:m.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)yeah...12:49:06
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6 Aug 2022
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her)

Does anyone know where the fact that the Darwin stdenv builds CMake twice comes from? As far as I can tell, it's from stage 0, and then just gets used in the other stages from there. Am I missing something here, is it something with the overrides? It looks like it might be, but then the fact that those are only allowed in the final stage (per booter.nix) (when that doesn't seem true, since then they wouldn't be defined...?) comes up.

(Isn't this the same pattern (defining in one stage and referencing in the others) that makes Glibc only build a limited number of times in the Linux stdenv?)

08:00:17
@trofi:matrix.org@trofi:matrix.org

You think cmake should be rebuild less? Or more?

glibc's is probably a bit different as it's a part of stdenv.cc.libc and mainly used by that I would guess. Also, if depends if the package is used or not by other packages in the derivation would affect rebuild count as well.

14:59:09
@trofi:matrix.org@trofi:matrix.org Looking at stdenv's dep tree I see 2 cmake-boot hashes and one cmake hash: https://dpaste.com/8GGM6P9BF.txt 15:03:11
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her)
In reply to @trofi:matrix.org

You think cmake should be rebuild less? Or more?

glibc's is probably a bit different as it's a part of stdenv.cc.libc and mainly used by that I would guess. Also, if depends if the package is used or not by other packages in the derivation would affect rebuild count as well.

I have no particular opinion, I'm just curious how that happens.
21:22:09
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her) Oh, for clarification, I was talking about cmake-boot. 21:22:19
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her) (which is cmake in the stdenv stages) 21:22:29
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her)see the line i linked21:22:36
@trofi:matrix.org@trofi:matrix.org AFAIU cmake = cmakeMinimal is only for stage1-4 (first build: bootstrapTools -> cmake-boot in pastebin). Last stage uses cmake as is. Also note that cmakeMinimal is used by zstd (used by final stage, does second build: stage4 -> cmake-boot -> zstd in pastebin). 21:44:31
@trofi:matrix.org@trofi:matrix.org I used the following command to grep through the full depgraph: $ nix-store --query --graph $(nix-instantiate -A stdenv --argstr system x86_64-darwin) 21:45:39
10 Aug 2022
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17 Aug 2022
@trofi:matrix.org@trofi:matrix.org Quiz question: for a final glibc used in nixpkgs all over the place which gcc you think is used to build it on linux? a) Possible answers: gcc from bootstrap tools b) gcc from nixpkgs. 17:36:21
@trofi:matrix.org@trofi:matrix.orgYou knew :)17:39:09

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