| 21 Apr 2025 |
 emily | x86_64-darwin is sort of tier 3 in practice but "No channel-blocking jobs on Hydra." isn't true | 22:14:30 |
 Tristan Ross | I'd say aarch64-linux is tier 1 by now lol | 22:23:29 |
 Randy Eckenrode | When it comes down to it, aarch64-linux is not going to be allowed to block like x86_64-linux is. | 22:28:47 |
| emily | yeah it definitely does not meet the criteria outlined for tier 1, but it is "tier 1.5"-ish | 22:30:27 |
| emily | mostly insofar as it piggy-backs on x86_64-linux though, in teh same way that x86_64-darwin does on aarch64-darwin | 22:30:40 |
| emily | * mostly insofar as it piggy-backs on x86_64-linux though, in the same way that x86_64-darwin does on aarch64-darwin | 22:30:45 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @reckenrode:matrix.org
When it comes down to it, aarch64-linux is not going to be allowed to block like x86_64-linux is. Why? | 22:57:07 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I can’t see x86_64-linux users accepting they have to wait on it. | 22:57:46 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @reckenrode:matrix.org
I can’t see x86_64-linux users accepting they have to wait on it. Well, either way I don't think it'd be fair. | 22:58:15 |
| emily | Tier 1 says "Developer/user base: most of the Nix developers/users", which is just not true of aarch64-linux | 23:15:08 |
| emily | admittedly that's in the non-normative section | 23:15:27 |
| emily | "full ofBorg support" is not true of aarch64-linux right now either, though. | 23:15:41 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
"full ofBorg support" is not true of aarch64-linux right now either, though. What's lacking for Ofborg? | 23:33:25 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
Tier 1 says "Developer/user base: most of the Nix developers/users", which is just not true of aarch64-linux Do we have an idea of what the x86 vs aarch64 split looks like? | 23:33:49 |
| emily | probably >90% / <10% | 23:34:08 |
| emily | I don't think ofborg has any AArch64 machines (because they are very expensive) | 23:34:23 |
| emily | well, other than Macs of course | 23:34:34 |
| Tristan Ross | I thought Ofborg had the Ampere boxes from Hetzner | 23:35:16 |
| emily | those are for Hydra | 23:35:30 |
| Tristan Ross | I thought we had some for Hydra and some for Ofborg | 23:35:59 |
| emily | oh hm | 23:36:10 |
| emily | yeah I guess that changed | 23:36:13 |
| emily | originally it was just x86_64-linux + aarch64-darwin | 23:36:22 |
| emily | I thought ofborg wasn't using any Foundation machines though | 23:36:38 |
| emily | maybe that changed | 23:36:40 |
| Tristan Ross | Yeah, I have seen aarch64-linux jobs showing up for Ofborg | 23:36:51 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I thought ofborg wasn't using any Foundation machines though I'm not sure | 23:36:57 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I agree it’s not fair, but that’s what I see from Darwin. When there’s a conflict between platforms, x86_64-linux gets the priority. | 23:56:23 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @reckenrode:matrix.org
I agree it’s not fair, but that’s what I see from Darwin. When there’s a conflict between platforms, x86_64-linux gets the priority. Yeah, ideally they should get equal treatment | 23:57:45 |
| 22 Apr 2025 |
| emily | if they had equal userbases, that would make sense | 00:00:56 |
