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25 Feb 2026
@kity:kity.wtfproblemsi know i had this crossSystem toolchain working in 2022 so something changed since then i guess?20:21:01
@gsaurel:laas.frnim65smaybe these are just issues from a newer gcc ?20:23:40
@gsaurel:laas.frnim65s changed their display name from Guilhem to nim65s.20:23:45
@kity:kity.wtfproblems it's not even building rust at this point so i guess a minimal repro would just be trying to build for system = "i486-netbsd" 20:24:00
@kity:kity.wtfproblems it's not even building rust at this point so i guess a minimal repro would just be trying to build gcc for system = "i486-netbsd" 20:24:15
26 Feb 2026
@kity:kity.wtfproblemsbisecting nixpkgs now ig01:16:06
@lt1379:matrix.orgLunI'd guess GCC 13 or 14 bump with it being a Wint-conversion failure01:39:56
@lt1379:matrix.orgLunyeah 14 changed that https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-14/porting_to.html#int-conversion01:44:54
@kity:kity.wtfproblems hm okay maybe just bumping the netbsd sources might work then? if i can find them 01:57:29
@kity:kity.wtfproblemsi incremented the version from 9.2 to 9.4, so here's hoping02:00:17
@kity:kity.wtfproblemsnope ;~;03:09:33
@kity:kity.wtfproblemsmy netbsd wife is saying that netbsd is only supposed to be built with its own patched gcc so idk :l03:15:43
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@szlend:matrix.orgszlendJust wondering, are LLVM version additions usually backported to stable channels? I've seen LLVM 21 backported last time to 25.05, but 22 is missing in 25.11 this time11:33:31
@k900:0upti.meK900Usually not unless they're necessary for something else11:33:51
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa RossI would generally backport. It makes it easier to backport other LLVM unstable PRs. But indeed this time I think it didn't happen. Still could.11:34:37
@szlend:matrix.orgszlendI wonder how big of a lift that is. I guess it depends on how much the stdenv infra has changed in unstable?11:37:45
@szlend:matrix.orgszlendRust has started to use LLVM 22 in nightly, so I imagine they're gonna upgrade soon. Which breaks some things like cross boundary lto. But don't think that actualy affects nixpkgs itself11:39:20
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa RossI don't think it would be difficult.11:40:17
@szlend:matrix.orgszlendI got a build running by applying a diff between 25.11/unstable for paths llvm/22, llvm/common and the llvm stuff in all-packages.nix. Hopefully that passes16:51:50
@szlend:matrix.orgszlendSay I get this build passing. To make an acceptable PR I assume you'd want me to look up and backport all the individual llvm-22 and llvm-common commits from unstable right?16:55:11
@szlend:matrix.orgszlendThough some changes in llvm/common are not directly related to llvm-2216:56:17
@szlend:matrix.orgszlendbleh, one llvm test failed (TestExecuteEmptyEnvironment, missing libLLVM.dylib)21:15:32
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossThere's a fix for that on staging21:24:37
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossThe PR which fixes it is linked in the LLVM 22 PR21:24:49
@szlend:matrix.orgszlendah great21:25:08
@kity:kity.wtfproblemsokay so is it possible to build gcc13Stdenv without a dependency on gcc15?23:42:41
@kity:kity.wtfproblemsit still tries to build libcMinimal with gcc15 apparently23:43:21
27 Feb 2026
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossHuh what, what are you trying to accomplish?00:01:43
@kity:kity.wtfproblemsnetbsd stdenv is broken on gcc14 and newer00:02:07

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