| 28 Aug 2025 |
 ris_ | yup, will look back at this tomorrow | 22:36:50 |
| 29 Aug 2025 |
|  陈浩南 changed their profile picture. | 05:06:54 |
|  dish [Fox/It/She] joined the room. | 13:45:08 |
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 j-k | dish [Fox/It/She]: I think this is one of the last minimal boostrap discussions I recall seeing. (In-case you're interested) | 19:25:12 |
 emily | I believe it's much further along than that by this point? | 19:35:56 |
| emily | I heard that most of the remaining work is just "wiring it up" | 19:36:09 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | love that matrix doesnt let me load that message for some reasoj | 20:07:10 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | * love that matrix doesnt let me load that message for some reason | 20:07:17 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | truly a matrix moment | 20:07:25 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | anyways yes i would love to help contribute to getting all of this wired up and actually enabled in nixpkgs | 20:08:12 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | theoretically it should let us remove quite a few binary bootstrap tarballs | 20:08:45 |
 Ramses 🇵🇸 | I haven't seen anything about the minimal bootstrap recently and I kind of assumed that the effort ran out of steam. People are still working on this? Is there any up-to-date into online? | 20:41:02 |
 K900 | It did run out of steam as in Emily stopped being paid to do it and no one else stepped uo | 20:41:34 |
| Ramses 🇵🇸 | Right, that's what I though | 20:41:51 |
| K900 | * | 20:41:52 |
| Ramses 🇵🇸 | * Right, that's what I thought | 20:42:01 |
 Philip Taron (UTC-8) | I stepped up then immediately stepped down as I realized that it was a big job. | 20:55:18 |
| Philip Taron (UTC-8) | Sorry. | 20:56:01 |
| Philip Taron (UTC-8) | 😬 | 20:56:03 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | is there any information available about the current state of bootstrapping nixpkgs in general, or do I just have to look at the code and sort stuff out? | 21:05:56 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | not just minimal-bootstrap, but how bootstrap-files and such are used currently | 21:06:25 |
| K900 | Not much written down | 21:08:42 |
| K900 | But basically bootstrap-files goes into gcc goes into stdenv goes into everything else | 21:08:58 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | gotcha | 21:14:07 |
| emily | I think replacing the bootstrap tarballs derivation with one that contains a bunch of symlinks to the final steps of the minimal bootstrap would probably be the most expedient integration point | 21:19:25 |
| 30 Aug 2025 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | okay my first step atm is updating the bootstrap chain, we're on stage0-posix 1.6.0 atm, and we can go to 1.9.1 which requires a bunch of dependency upgrades so I'm working through those. Once that's finished, then I want to try and replace bootstrap-files and see what blows up | 00:45:05 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | should probably make a public page or something but for now im just tracking it locally | 00:45:35 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | * should probably make a public page or something but for now im just tracking it locally in my notes app | 00:45:38 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | * should probably make a public tracking page or issue or something but for now im just tracking it locally in my notes app | 00:47:25 |
