| 14 Dec 2025 |
 whispers (it/fae) | Redacted or Malformed Event | 03:10:17 |
| whispers (it/fae) | * oh no, there are several spurious hash mismatches here (i.e. solved by just running a build again). that's so fun, but eh, probably fine long-term | 03:10:33 |
| whispers (it/fae) | * oh no, there are several spurious hash mismatches here (i.e. solved by just running a build again). that's annoying, but probably fine | 03:10:45 |
| whispers (it/fae) | * oh no, there are several spurious hash mismatches here (i.e. solved by just running a build again), nyacc also failed once as well. that's annoying, but probably fine | 03:12:25 |
 Winter | are we not using fetchgit for that repo? (if we were at least the build would fail…) | 03:14:35 |
| whispers (it/fae) | the issue has faded into my scrollback, but i think it was tinycc-musl, and it doesn't look like it https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/604c2f3e6eb4b8725779168e9adef366252e8598/pkgs/os-specific/linux/minimal-bootstrap/tinycc/musl.nix#L17-L20 | 03:18:05 |
| whispers (it/fae) | * the issue has faded past the limit of my scrollback, but i think it was tinycc-musl, and it doesn't look like it https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/604c2f3e6eb4b8725779168e9adef366252e8598/pkgs/os-specific/linux/minimal-bootstrap/tinycc/musl.nix#L17-L20 | 03:18:43 |
| whispers (it/fae) | * doesn't look like it https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/604c2f3e6eb4b8725779168e9adef366252e8598/pkgs/os-specific/linux/minimal-bootstrap/tinycc/musl.nix#L17-L20 | 03:20:14 |
 aleksi | Oh, totally forgot about this. There's also that repo.or.cz geo-blocks UK at the moment. There's a GitHub mirror, but I suppose it might be tricky to set up mirror rotation before we have curl? | 10:08:37 |
| aleksi | I guess fetchgit with lowercase g would also not be available, but I've just learned about similarly named builtin fetchGit. Could we use that? | 10:10:40 |
| aleksi | Or alternatively just default to the unofficial GitHub mirror, or set up a mirror of our own even | 10:26:04 |
| 15 Dec 2025 |
 dish [Fox/It/She] | yeah we'd need curl or a really hacky bash script to do that(and I'm hesitant to do a bash script | 21:58:26 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | * yeah we'd need curl or a really hacky bash script to do that(and I'm hesitant to do a bash script) | 21:58:28 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | mirror may be a good option | 21:58:37 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | just updated my minimal-bootstrap-next PR, looking for some help getting a GCC build that targets the glibc we have. Would we need to make a new GCC build or can we just use a wrapper to point it to GCC, anyone know? | 22:01:24 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | currently the gcc we have is built against musl | 22:01:46 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | * currently the gcc we have is built against musl, and I've tried making a glibc-based build but have just been deluged with errors. May have been one of the errors with the previous musl that were mentioned before. | 22:02:12 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | * currently the gcc we have is built against musl, and I've tried making a glibc-based build but have just been deluged with errors. May have been one of the errors with the previous musl that were mentioned in the x86_64 support PR. | 22:05:02 |
| 16 Dec 2025 |
 Tristan Ross | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/365057 oh this PR is a year old but good to have so I can continue improving toolchain things | 06:41:03 |
| aleksi | I know we have this in aux, and it rebuilds gcc to target glibc. If I understood correctly, gcc likes to hard-code some library paths and knowing that the target involves glibc causes it to make some optimizations (and vice versa for musl?) | 08:30:02 |
| aleksi | I'm looking at how we could bootstrap a gcc that is linked with musl, which produces output code linked with glibc. Please correct me if this is not what we want for glibc-platform stdenvs 😁 | 12:16:18 |
 K900 | I don't think we need that? | 12:17:22 |
| K900 | Our current bootstrap gccs are all-gnu and I don't think that's a problem? | 12:17:35 |
 Randy Eckenrode | I think this is for the minimal bootstrap. | 12:18:14 |
| K900 | Yeah but I don't know if it's easier to chain through glibc or musl | 12:18:35 |
| K900 | And I'm saying there's no reason for it to specifically be musl | 12:18:43 |
| K900 | If glibc is easier | 12:18:45 |
 dramforever | maybe musl is easier to build with older gcc or something? why were we on musl anyway? | 12:20:21 |
 helle (just a stray cat girl) | there are alternatives to musl that may be easier to wrangle, but I can't access my notes right now | 12:22:13 |
 Alex | In reply to @dramforever:matrix.org
maybe musl is easier to build with older gcc or something? why were we on musl anyway? I don't know much about the topic under discussion, but my guess is static linking. | 12:30:05 |
