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@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossI'm just making sure unzip works lol23:18:15
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossIt didn't have a maintainer before in like forever 23:18:36
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossWas thinking of eventually doing some nice changes like final attrs and move to by name23:20:41
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily how do people feel about setting ulimit -n 1024 in setup.sh? it's the default for Linux and it would be helpful for Darwin. 23:20:51
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilynot sure if that's the right place for it.23:20:57
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinhttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/17365723:23:46
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinhttps://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/655723:24:04
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhm, so the ulimits are not inherited by child processes in general on Darwin? or just the launchd setting doesn't propagate to children somehow?23:25:44
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin Setting the ulimit higher in preCheck works so the first shouldn't be true 23:27:12
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyright.23:27:18
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily it seems like it would be more expedient to add this to stdenv for now than to spend ages trying to figure out why it's not working in Nix and how it should handle it and getting a PR in to do that. 23:27:53
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywhat's the default inside the Nix sandbox on Linux? is there systemd stuff to up it from 1024 there?23:28:09
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinhttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/e4735dbdda8288aef24141f3ae8848a14f06fe08/nixos/modules/services/system/nix-daemon.nix#L200 104857623:31:12
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinhttps://github.com/NixOS/nix/blob/master/misc/systemd/nix-daemon.service.in23:31:44
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily sadly kern.maxfilesperproc is 122880 by default on Darwin 😅 23:32:15
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinhttps://github.com/NixOS/nix/commit/2320a2f93e0aa61e8d45dcfb3fb536361a1fcb6f23:32:28
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyso we could only go that high23:32:30
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily
In reply to @artturin:matrix.org
https://github.com/NixOS/nix/commit/2320a2f93e0aa61e8d45dcfb3fb536361a1fcb6f
yeah so I doubt that launchd thing works.
23:34:17
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilysince it's above the system-wide per-process limit.23:34:22
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyin fact maybe the whole Nix bug is because that setting is being ignored for being too high? unless it was happening when it was 4096 too23:34:39
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinThere's no numbers for the old error messages so no way to know23:35:42
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyright23:36:15
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin lovesegfault: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/6645#issuecomment-1230341511 23:37:01
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily well, it seems reasonable to set it to 4096 or 122880 in setup.sh. I don't know what the potential overheads of raising the limit are on Darwin, but I'd be surprised if they're high. 23:37:04
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin * lovesegfault: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/6645#issuecomment-1230341511 are you still patching it yourself? 23:37:17
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(set it if it's lower, I mean, so no change for Linux.)23:38:35
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily doing something fancier in Nix may also be nice but one line in stdenv to avoiding hacks in Nixpkgs derivations now seems like a good trade-off. 23:39:06
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinyep23:39:20
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily
/*
 * This structure is used for the management of descriptors.  It may be
 * shared by multiple processes.
 *
 * A process is initially started out with NDFILE descriptors [XXXstored within
 * this structureXXX], selected to be enough for typical applications based on
 * the historical limit of 20 open files (and the usage of descriptors by
 * shells).  If these descriptors are exhausted, a larger descriptor table
 * may be allocated, up to a process' resource limit; [XXXthe internal arrays
 * are then unusedXXX].  The initial expansion is set to NDEXTENT; each time
 * it runs out, it is doubled until the resource limit is reached. NDEXTENT
 * should be selected to be the biggest multiple of OFILESIZE (see below)
 * that will fit in a power-of-two sized piece of memory.
 */
#define NDFILE          25              /* 125 bytes */
#define NDEXTENT        50              /* 250 bytes in 256-byte alloc. */
23:43:32
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythankfully XNU is open source!23:43:44

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