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21 Oct 2024
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinhttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/e056730f13ab6ed6d8325d4343752f7f9b9bf60b/pkgs/top-level/aliases.nix#L181718:09:46
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinI forgot these https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/e056730f13ab6ed6d8325d4343752f7f9b9bf60b/pkgs/top-level/splice.nix#L12218:09:52
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin * https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/e056730f13ab6ed6d8325d4343752f7f9b9bf60b/pkgs/top-level/aliases.nix#L1817 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/20981618:09:59
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin * I forgot (or didn't know they were there) these https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/e056730f13ab6ed6d8325d4343752f7f9b9bf60b/pkgs/top-level/splice.nix#L12218:10:13
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilymaybe a case for manually adding warnings?18:11:35
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross
In reply to @artturin:matrix.org

https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/e056730f13ab6ed6d8325d4343752f7f9b9bf60b/pkgs/top-level/aliases.nix#L1817

https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/209816

I never realized those were aliases lol
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@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossAlso, I'm going to probably merge the stdenv team PR tonight or this afternoon.18:15:13
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinhttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/35029918:17:08
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossHuh18:21:35
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@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinhttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/33683718:47:09
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@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her)

Does anyone know where the fact that the Darwin stdenv builds CMake twice comes from? As far as I can tell, it's from stage 0, and then just gets used in the other stages from there. Am I missing something here, is it something with the overrides? It looks like it might be, but then the fact that those are only allowed in the final stage (per booter.nix) (when that doesn't seem true, since then they wouldn't be defined...?) comes up.

(Isn't this the same pattern (defining in one stage and referencing in the others) that makes Glibc only build a limited number of times in the Linux stdenv?)

08:00:17
@trofi:matrix.orgtrofi

You think cmake should be rebuild less? Or more?

glibc's is probably a bit different as it's a part of stdenv.cc.libc and mainly used by that I would guess. Also, if depends if the package is used or not by other packages in the derivation would affect rebuild count as well.

14:59:09
@trofi:matrix.orgtrofi Looking at stdenv's dep tree I see 2 cmake-boot hashes and one cmake hash: https://dpaste.com/8GGM6P9BF.txt 15:03:11
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her)
In reply to @trofi:matrix.org

You think cmake should be rebuild less? Or more?

glibc's is probably a bit different as it's a part of stdenv.cc.libc and mainly used by that I would guess. Also, if depends if the package is used or not by other packages in the derivation would affect rebuild count as well.

I have no particular opinion, I'm just curious how that happens.
21:22:09
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her) Oh, for clarification, I was talking about cmake-boot. 21:22:19
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her) (which is cmake in the stdenv stages) 21:22:29
@winterqt:nixos.devWinter (she/her)see the line i linked21:22:36
@trofi:matrix.orgtrofi AFAIU cmake = cmakeMinimal is only for stage1-4 (first build: bootstrapTools -> cmake-boot in pastebin). Last stage uses cmake as is. Also note that cmakeMinimal is used by zstd (used by final stage, does second build: stage4 -> cmake-boot -> zstd in pastebin). 21:44:31
@trofi:matrix.orgtrofi I used the following command to grep through the full depgraph: $ nix-store --query --graph $(nix-instantiate -A stdenv --argstr system x86_64-darwin) 21:45:39
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@trofi:matrix.orgtrofi Quiz question: for a final glibc used in nixpkgs all over the place which gcc you think is used to build it on linux? a) Possible answers: gcc from bootstrap tools b) gcc from nixpkgs. 17:36:21
@trofi:matrix.orgtrofiYou knew :)17:39:09
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinobviously it is the more ridiculous answer 🙃17:40:03
@trofi:matrix.orgtrofiYeah :) Spoiler: https://dpaste.com/DMD34BUN9.txt17:40:23

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