| 22 Apr 2025 |
 Tristan Ross | It's not going to be anytime soon but it'll likely happen at some point. | 18:00:40 |
 emily | maybe depending on how the server market shifts | 18:01:25 |
| emily | desktops would require a change in Microsoft priorities | 18:01:39 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
maybe depending on how the server market shifts Yeah, basically Ampere, Graviton, and NVIDIA's ARM chips lol. But I think it's mostly Ampere or Graviton. | 18:02:51 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
desktops would require a change in Microsoft priorities Yeah... Apple Silicon is a thing but I'd consider it a niche | 18:03:16 |
| Tristan Ross | I think Pi's are an easily accessible option but not much performance there. However, I do see it being a simple setup for people. | 18:03:55 |
| emily | the difference is that there don't need to be any convenient options for x86 since it's what everyone already has | 18:05:17 |
| Tristan Ross | Yeah, which is how Apple was able to do it. Forced adoption. | 18:06:10 |
| Tristan Ross | If companies forced Arm more, there'd be more convenient hardware. | 18:06:41 |
| emily | well the arm machines being the same price or cheaper but faster probably helped :P | 18:07:25 |
| Tristan Ross | Definitely | 18:07:39 |
| Tristan Ross | Battery life for one is a thing. | 18:07:58 |
| emily | we're not going to see a substantial amount of users and contributors on desktop AArch64 Linux as long as it's paying more for worse perf | 18:08:04 |
| emily | we surely have more using Apple Silicon fulltime | 18:08:20 |
| Tristan Ross | Yeah, that's what I've been thinking about. We need something like Apple Silicon. Decent price per performance. Not as slow as a Pi but cheaper than an Ampere. | 18:09:02 |
| 23 Apr 2025 |
 cldrpr | Thanks (and thank you for the clarification)! Let me now if you are able to give it a try and if you find anything interesting. I will be at a conference all next week but I will keeping work on this and exploring the possibility of a buildPackages/targetPackages mix-up when I get back. | 04:03:51 |
 Randy Eckenrode | Linux to Darwin cross is something I’d like to do for 25.11 (but no guarantees). | 12:06:44 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @reckenrode:matrix.org
Linux to Darwin cross is something I’d like to do for 25.11 (but no guarantees). That would be awesome to have. | 18:22:08 |
 aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | In reply to @reckenrode:matrix.org
Linux to Darwin cross is something I’d like to do for 25.11 (but no guarantees). Love to see us reaching nearly all possibilities! | 18:24:26 |
| 24 Apr 2025 |
| Tristan Ross | I'm redoing the LTO PR and adding NIX_DONT_LTO so packages which can't do LTO won't have it. | 03:41:25 |
| Tristan Ross | Hopefully, I get past pkgsLTO.stdenv.cc.libgcc | 03:43:28 |
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| 25 Apr 2025 |
| Tristan Ross | aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC): I saw loongarch64-unknown-linux-gnu now bootstraps. Do we support loongarch32-unknown-linux-gnu cross? | 17:24:30 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | In reply to @rosscomputerguy:matrix.org
aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC): I saw loongarch64-unknown-linux-gnu now bootstraps. Do we support loongarch32-unknown-linux-gnu cross? I have no idea | 17:25:00 |
| Tristan Ross | Fun | 17:25:12 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | And I'm in bed | 17:25:18 |
| Tristan Ross | Oh ok | 17:25:23 |
 Alyssa Ross | I don't think so | 17:25:25 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | I'll see if I can do anything tomorrow | 17:25:32 |
| Alyssa Ross | It's only very recent that anything supports that AIUI | 17:25:37 |
