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22 Apr 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI think the RFC 46 criteria are pretty good, esp. in that they primarily define expectations on contributions and support rather than technical proxies for those02:00:17
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythough the ofborg part goes against that a bit :)02:00:22
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossHmm02:01:42
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross I changed it, so x86_64-darwin isn't as used with nix as aarch64-darwin? 04:13:37
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)
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@aleksana:mozilla.org So the coreutils PR got merged, that'll cause a rebuild of stdenv anyway. I think that other stdenv PR should be good.
I have borrowed loongarch64 server from loongson
04:47:00
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)So04:47:02
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)🥺04:47:14
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross
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I have borrowed loongarch64 server from loongson
Nice, I wish I could have some hardware but there's import restrictions
04:49:09
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)
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Nice, I wish I could have some hardware but there's import restrictions
Which country are you in now?
04:49:48
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross
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Which country are you in now?
US
04:49:55
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)They ban people from importing loongarch machine?04:50:14
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossApparently since 202304:50:39
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossIdk where you even buy the hardware lol04:54:07
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)
In reply to @rosscomputerguy:matrix.org
Apparently since 2023
Looks like it doesn't
04:54:59
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)I can search 3A5000 and 3A6000 on Amazon04:55:26
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)They just don't say it's loongarch04:55:56
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossHuh04:56:16
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossAmazon says it's ARM lol04:56:22
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossRedacted or Malformed Event04:56:45
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossBut yeah, two options04:56:46
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossOh woops, forgot the mod bot deletes images04:56:57
@aleksana:mozilla.orgaleksana 🏳️‍⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC)We can move to exotic group04:57:20
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson hmm targetPackages.bintools does sound like a mistake! 16:07:02
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsongood eye!16:07:04
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode
In reply to @rosscomputerguy:matrix.org
I changed it, so x86_64-darwin isn't as used with nix as aarch64-darwin?
We don’t collect any stats, so we don’t know, but it’s likely Apple will announce this year or next that x86_64-darwin support is being ended.
16:34:43
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross
In reply to @reckenrode:matrix.org
We don’t collect any stats, so we don’t know, but it’s likely Apple will announce this year or next that x86_64-darwin support is being ended.
Gotcha, I'm thinking it might be nice to get some of that information on the surveys the marketing team runs.
16:39:14
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossGraham shared this https://x.com/grhmc/status/191467984084371915716:39:51
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossSo it looks like aarch64 is significantly higher than x86_64 Darwin at least for DetSys16:40:31
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross Ofc that's not the exact information we need but gives an idea 16:40:47
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross Oh yeah, @[John Ericson]. I know you were involved in the RFC for the platform tier support. I'm wanting to expand upon it and work on a new platform tier list based on this: https://pad.lassul.us/9yYTVp73QBul7dCm6tCWsw?view. I'd appreciate you're feedback and seeing what we can do to improve it. 17:08:52

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