| 18 Apr 2025 |
 aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | The fix is the same as libunistring, just adding am_cv_func_iconv_works = "yes" | 09:15:43 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | Fixing this https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/399691 | 09:31:27 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | * Fixing this https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/399694 | 09:43:46 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | I feel like we are building perl too many times in stdenv bootstrap | 12:20:01 |
 trofi | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/stdenv/linux/default.nix#L39 has a few handly calls to look at the various stages of stdenv | 12:32:05 |
| trofi | autoconf gets pulled in and out from tie to time based on amount of autoreconfHook used during bootstrap. a typical perl user | 12:33:23 |
| trofi | $ nix-store --query --graph $(nix-instantiate -A stdenv) | grep -P -- '->.*perl-5.40.0.drv' | awk '{print $3}' | sort -u
"92dqkd8x6yh185ps4bbmqdnyzcswsc1q-perl-5.40.0.drv"
"r566ksw3ydjyr1vyzgzn6pbrjx052xs7-perl-5.40.0.drv"
"wgkgyyh5lha8nf6l3w8i3g62gcpwyyfw-perl-5.40.0.drv"
suggests we build it 3 times. Not too many.
| 12:36:04 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | In reply to @trofi:matrix.org
$ nix-store --query --graph $(nix-instantiate -A stdenv) | grep -P -- '->.*perl-5.40.0.drv' | awk '{print $3}' | sort -u
"92dqkd8x6yh185ps4bbmqdnyzcswsc1q-perl-5.40.0.drv"
"r566ksw3ydjyr1vyzgzn6pbrjx052xs7-perl-5.40.0.drv"
"wgkgyyh5lha8nf6l3w8i3g62gcpwyyfw-perl-5.40.0.drv"
suggests we build it 3 times. Not too many.
Thanks for the example. I just recalled there is a graph in hydra>nixpkgs>staging>some job>build dependencies | 12:39:05 |
| trofi | https://bpa.st/raw/RO2Q is the full list of users | 12:39:05 |
| trofi | But it does not help that perl recently disabled parallel builds. | 12:40:33 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | Maybe we can disable check for early stages to save some build time | 12:41:18 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | As the packages are not presented in final stdenv it shouldn't be a problem | 12:41:51 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | Anyway, I'm approaching hello, maybe in stage 3. It's insane that loongarch64 doesn't require a lot of patches nowadays | 12:48:08 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | Only 3 bugs from us to fix | 12:50:07 |
| trofi | i'd expect most linux targets to Just Work | 12:57:50 |
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| 20 Apr 2025 |
 Tristan Ross | If anyone else wants to look at this before it's merged, please do. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/394797 | 04:23:42 |
| Tristan Ross | I'm going to work on what this is: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/375435#discussion_r1927770569
We'll have a new nixpkgs config option called allowVariants and we'll have pkgs/top-level/variants.nix. This enables the nixpkgs variants like pkgsLLVM, pkgsMusl, etc. | 15:12:20 |
| Tristan Ross | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/400351 we have the variants in this pr | 15:27:58 |
 emily | how does that interact with https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/380342? | 15:29:27 |
| emily | ah, it's just making them alias-ish | 15:29:52 |
| Tristan Ross | Yeah, it's just alias-like | 15:30:01 |
| emily | wouldn't it be better to just put them behind config.allowAliases like other convenience things? | 15:30:04 |
| Tristan Ross | Well, they're kinda different imo. | 15:30:21 |
| Tristan Ross | An alias is something more like llvmPackages_latest being a shorthand for the latest LLVM version, it's an alias lol | 15:30:52 |
| Tristan Ross | But these are variants of nixpkgs | 15:31:01 |
| Tristan Ross | Some of these might be needed for some things to function, I want to move more from stage into variants but I didn't want to break anything. | 15:32:18 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | I had an issue with allowAliases | 15:33:12 |
