| 23 Dec 2024 |
 Randy Eckenrode | Being explicit about your build system would definitely be a big and breaking change. | 00:01:21 |
 Philip Taron (UTC-8) | It's worth doing, even it it might mean moving away from the "stdenv" name. | 14:37:05 |
 Alexandros Liarokapis | I was thinking about this, I really like what the conan package manager has done in this area. Basically keep a c/c++ "model" then translate into build-tool native integrations (eg toolchain files for cmake) | 16:21:52 |
| Alexandros Liarokapis | Conan's model is very complete and takes cross compilation into account | 16:22:46 |
 Tristan Ross | In reply to @philiptaron:matrix.org
It's worth doing, even it it might mean moving away from the "stdenv" name. Maybe, I'm 50/50 on that. | 16:42:05 |
| 25 Dec 2024 |
 John Ericson | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
Building arbitrary things for a UEFI target is generally not useful We have bare metal targets despite few things building | 17:32:50 |
| Tristan Ross | I've got some work to add the LLVM ABI into the LLVM libc PR. Unfortunately, clang is going to require some changes but it will land upstream. | 21:00:15 |
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|  raitobezarius changed their display name from raitobezarius to raitobezarius (DECT: 3538 / EPVPN 2681). | 07:33:19 |
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 emily | I hear there's big plans? | 13:41:20 |
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| Randy Eckenrode | https://matrix.to/#/!OqhvaDMJdKYUicLDiE:nixos.org/$8uL8k1o0WYLd5ezXnGnzHJFJQKUtfAS8ZIbd68vbgdY?via=nixos.org&via=matrix.org&via=nixos.dev | 13:52:52 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Though it goes back more IIRC. | 13:53:08 |
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| 29 Dec 2024 |
|  Bonus changed their display name from Bonus to Bonus (p4team, 7128). | 12:10:56 |
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| 30 Dec 2024 |
| Tristan Ross | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/369102 this is nice | 04:26:33 |
| raitobezarius changed their display name from raitobezarius (DECT: 3538 / EPVPN 2681) to raitobezarius. | 16:29:52 |
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| phaer changed their display name from phaer (8650 at 38c3) to phaer. | 19:24:17 |
| 1 Jan 2025 |
|  NixOS Moderation Botchanged room power levels. | 14:26:31 |
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| 5 Jan 2025 |
| emily | any thoughts on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/203675? tempted to just send it for the next cycle | 18:25:12 |
 connor (burnt/out) (UTC-8) | I’m not a member of the stdenv team but I’m all for more visibility | 18:53:46 |
| emily | teams are a fake idea :) | 18:54:36 |
| emily | (what I mean is, I'm of course partially looking for feedback from people with a better sense of the likely consequences than me, but also I think starting to make judgement calls and seeing how they end up is the only way you develop that sense in the first place.) | 18:57:46 |
| connor (burnt/out) (UTC-8) | Well then ;)
Does anyone have thoughts on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/370750 or https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/370742? | 18:57:53 |
