| 17 Dec 2024 |
 Tristan Ross | The bintools derivation in nixpkgs itself | 18:05:21 |
| Tristan Ross | It's an alias which changes based on linker and bintools in the platform | 18:05:40 |
| Tristan Ross | Plan is to make that only change on bintools in the platform | 18:06:04 |
 Randy Eckenrode | I don’t see that in the PR? | 18:07:19 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Oh, there it is in all-packages.nix. | 18:07:49 |
| Tristan Ross | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/365057/files#diff-ab5748dc9567516fefba8344056b51ec1866adeace380f46e58a7af3d619ea22R7903 | 18:08:04 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Ah, hmm. Those couple of Darwin-specific tools are potentially carrying a lot of weight. | 18:10:02 |
| Tristan Ross | Yeah | 18:10:13 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I’d definitely want to test and possibly do cleanup if Darwin were to use llvmPackages.bintools-unwrapped by default. | 18:10:50 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Based on my LLVM 19 testing, some stuff is still broken. | 18:11:13 |
| Randy Eckenrode | (As mentioned in the PR.) | 18:11:23 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Someone with Mach-O knowledge would need to fix install_name_tool. The same is probably true for lipo. | 18:12:08 |
| Randy Eckenrode | The other few cctools binaries probably don’t matter. Anyone who cares could add cctools manually. | 18:12:39 |
| Tristan Ross | Gotcha, yeah I can't test it atm but you could lol. Just adjust the linker or bintools in the local platform when importing nixpkgs and spin up a build | 18:16:16 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I know for sure regarding those particular tools because I tried to switch to the LLVM versions with the LLVM 19 update. | 18:25:54 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Those are the only two I have concerns about because they’re commonly used (especially by Meson). | 18:26:21 |
| Tristan Ross | Oh | 18:28:10 |
| Randy Eckenrode | When building a library in Meson, it sets the install name to @rpath/libfoo.dylib and the rpath to the build folder. When you install, it replaces all that with absolute paths. | 18:30:19 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Not sure about lipo, but I had to make it available unprefixed for cross-compilation to work. | 18:30:53 |
| Tristan Ross | Fun | 18:33:14 |
| Tristan Ross | I see there's a libc attribute in the platform stuff but where is that used? I'm wanting to hook up LLVM libc. | 19:20:54 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Isn’t it used in all-packages.nix to pick the libc package? | 19:55:47 |
| Randy Eckenrode | If only setting that were easy. Darwin gave up on it with the SDK rework. There are too many ways to capture the wrong libc version with multiple SDKs. | 19:56:38 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @reckenrode:matrix.org
Isn’t it used in all-packages.nix to pick the libc package? I'm not sure | 21:03:28 |
| Tristan Ross | I might have to probe it later lol | 21:03:49 |
 Artturin | It is | 22:07:48 |
| Artturin | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/c91d5881387fe13e0e7b361861b099a6f52b2c03/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix#L9194 | 22:11:32 |
 Philip Taron (UTC-8) | I'm flexible. I would like to make the post on Discourse though. I see no one else has edited. I am happy to do that. | 22:49:15 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @artturin:matrix.org
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/c91d5881387fe13e0e7b361861b099a6f52b2c03/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix#L9194 Oh, that's easy to hook up | 22:55:06 |
| Artturin | Its only cross, native is determined in the bootstrap | 23:01:27 |
