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| djacu | Hey Stdenv Team
In case you haven't seen the recent post on discourse, the Marketing Team is preparing this year's community survey. I am reaching out to teams to see if there are any questions they would like to add to the survey to better serve the work you all do. More details in the post linked below.
https://discourse.nixos.org/t/community-feedback-requested-2025-nix-community-survey-planning/66155 | 03:29:38 |
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| 9lore | Hi, not sure if this the right place to ask, but aree there plans to bump pkgs.gnat default version soon? | 08:56:15 |
| 9lore | * Hi, not sure if this the right place to ask, but are there plans to bump pkgs.gnat default version soon? | 08:56:21 |
 Alyssa Ross | sterni ^ since you did it last time | 09:01:24 |
 sterni | I usually just check that everything in gnatPackages builds with the version we pick as default | 15:02:48 |
| sterni | i think gnatprove was blocking gnat14, but I think it has been fixed or there’s a PR for it | 15:03:16 |
| 5 Jul 2025 |
| 9lore | In reply to @sternenseemann:systemli.org
i think gnatprove was blocking gnat14, but I think it has been fixed or there’s a PR for it merged in may: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/407720 | 18:04:01 |
 alexfmpe | huh what's the difference between, say, *.hostPlatform and *.stdenv.hostPlatform | 22:06:32 |
 Tristan Ross | In reply to @alexfmpe:matrix.org
huh what's the difference between, say, *.hostPlatform and *.stdenv.hostPlatform It's an alias pretty much so it's literally the same thing | 22:10:43 |
| Tristan Ross | It's always recommended to use the one in stdenv | 22:11:13 |
| 7 Jul 2025 |
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| 17 Jul 2025 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/425246
What di i need to do to make sure this doesn't break stdenv due to fetchpatch2 usage? | 09:04:24 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | * https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/425246
What do i need to do to make sure this doesn't break stdenv due to fetchpatch2 usage? | 09:04:28 |
 K900 | Build stdenv? | 09:07:26 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | do i actually have to build it, or is an eval enough? | 09:08:59 |
| K900 | Eval is enough | 09:09:05 |
| 21 Jul 2025 |
 connor (he/him) (UTC-7) | Hey all — what can be done in the interest of improving setup.sh, along the lines of https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/385960#discussion_r2094198547? Would it be reasonable to introduce a standard library of sorts for setup.sh to better separate the core logic of the stdenv phases from utility functions they need along the way?
In particular, I’d hope that such a solution would allow for re-use of helpful functions outside of stdenv (for example, when writing small bash scripts) and a way to write test suites for the various functions. (And in time, the various components of setup.sh.) | 14:32:31 |
 emily | ideally we make structured attributes unconditional so we need less conditioning on that kind of thing to begin with :P | 14:35:00 |
| emily | splitting up setup.sh might be a good idea | 14:35:13 |
| emily | I don't know if there'd be that much use for the library outside of stdenv though | 14:35:31 |
| emily | (if you write a Bash script and it needs a library function, you should write a Python script instead) | 14:35:45 |
| connor (he/him) (UTC-7) | Python’s a whole thing though — sometimes I want to execute a bunch of python scripts in a directory in serial and accumulate exit codes | 14:38:42 |
| connor (he/him) (UTC-7) | Actually that’s not as strong of a rebuttal as I thought it was, I concede lmao | 14:39:02 |
