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systemd in NixOs's stage 1, replacing the current bash tooling https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/projects/5123 Servers

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14 Feb 2023
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgbut that sounds very annoying to validate18:46:43
@lily:lily.flowers@lily:lily.flowersIdk, that makes way too much sense. Gotta make sure to pile on more and more hacks (/s)18:47:22
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orglol18:47:39
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org yea I wouldn't dare open a PR with that feature, but it does seem right 18:47:55
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yea I wouldn't dare open a PR with that feature, but it does seem right
Yeah that's more systemd refactoring than I am certainly comfortable with, even though that seems objectively better. I'll see what upstream says about at least handling bind mounts for now though (I'll probably open it after their 253 release, when they'll be more able to look at it and my other PR)
19:47:06
15 Feb 2023
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/26367#issuecomment-1430670880

jfc "we can't do a real fix because it's remotely possible that some people have an utterly insane configuration that would break"

04:52:58
@gdamjan:spodeli.org@gdamjan:spodeli.orgcalm down :)10:59:40
16 Feb 2023
@jkarlson:kapsi.fi@jkarlson:kapsi.fihibernation is a nightmare07:18:05
@jkarlson:kapsi.fi@jkarlson:kapsi.fifilesytems should really be used with nfs or something with hibernation07:18:53
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org Emil Thorsøe: hm? Why nfs? 07:19:43
@jkarlson:kapsi.fi@jkarlson:kapsi.fiit decouples the processes from internal filesystem state07:20:03
@jkarlson:kapsi.fi@jkarlson:kapsi.fiso filesystem could be effectively unmounted in any way that could cause corruption07:20:40
@jkarlson:kapsi.fi@jkarlson:kapsi.finote that such code is not really implemented, maybe autofs07:20:57
@jkarlson:kapsi.fi@jkarlson:kapsi.fiI guess filesystemd could be written in a way that adds a nfs wrapper or libc 07:26:34
@jkarlson:kapsi.fi@jkarlson:kapsi.fi * I guess filesystems could be written in a way that adds a nfs wrapper or libc 07:26:45

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