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8 May 2023
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org nikstur: What Arian and I had discussed before was adding a device option to inform it which device you want it to format. 22:52:12
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org We thought about trying to derive it from fileSystems."/".device but this wouldn't realistically work 22:53:35
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nikstur: What Arian and I had discussed before was adding a device option to inform it which device you want it to format.
That seems fair.
23:00:42
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.org
In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
We thought about trying to derive it from fileSystems."/".device but this wouldn't realistically work
Yes that wouldn't work for a volatile filesystem like a tmpfs for example
23:01:03
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org the other possibility about is mounting /nix/store in /sysusr to try to get sysusr-style functionality. This is significantly tricker though, and of course doesn't work if the store isn't on the same storage device as the root fs. 23:02:12
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org * the other possibility is mounting /nix/store in /sysusr to try to get sysusr-style functionality. This is significantly tricker though, and of course doesn't work if the store isn't on the same storage device as the root fs. 23:02:21
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.orgI thought about that too. That would also allow us to use systemd-veritysetup-generator which would be fun23:03:26
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.orgWe could also think about invoking systemd-repart multiple times one for each disk you want to partition 23:04:43
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.orgBut as it stands, systemd-repart really only thinks about single-disk systems23:06:05
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org nikstur: The most comprehensive thing we could probably do would be to support three modes: 1) Let repart find the device via /sysusr, which would be repurposed for /nix/store. 2) Let repart find the device via /sysroot, meaning you must already have a formatted root fs. 3) Allow specifying the device manually in a NixOS option. 23:17:39
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgIf we only do one of them, it should not be #2, because that's the weakest option23:18:03
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.orgI think we can reasonably do 2) and 3)23:18:26
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgBut in theory we could just set it up to do whichever one is most possible23:18:28
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.org1 would be cool but has other drawbacks, like no substitutions I believe23:18:58
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgWhat do you mean by "no substitutions"?23:19:11
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.orgPath substitutions from a cache23:19:41
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgoh, no23:20:06
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org We won't need to change the nix store path. /sysusr is meant to be seen as a chroot root 23:20:53
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.orgAhh right23:22:00
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org We'd just have to make /sysusr/usr somehow a mountpoint pointing to the same device as /sysusr/nix/store, which I suppose means making it a bind mount to something 23:22:33
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.orgI'll hack the device option (number 3) into the PR so that it falls back to number 2 when no device is specified. 23:22:47
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgyea that's a good start23:23:04
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.organd likely all we'll really need23:23:11
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.orgYes I agree23:24:39
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.orgI'll try to write a test for creating a root partition too23:24:43
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianThat's awesome!23:31:40
9 May 2023
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org nikstur: Heh, I dunno if you were planning on doing the other suggestions in a separate PR, but #230777 was merged :P 11:07:09
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.orgHaha that's ok I'll just do a follow up11:07:49
17 May 2023
@mberndt:matrix.org@mberndt:matrix.org ElvishJerricco
I've reworked the Stratis root fs support. nixos-generate-config now does the right thing with stratis volumes, and the stratisroot module will make sure that all pools required to boot the machine are initialized in the initramfs. Could you take another look?
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/229767
03:07:43
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org mberndt: I'll take a look soon. Been feeling a little ill so I've been avoiding nixpkgs work for a couple of days 13:34:40

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